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Chukwuwumba
DirtyBurgIllini said:
Reminder that the NCAA is the deciding factor here😂… but they think they have a real chance
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I wonder what the rationale is.
RS 2020 covid
Says he played each season after.
Maybe related to Fitzgerald/ hazing issues? Did team get free transfer eligible afterwards?
Medical issue supposed RS freshman year?
 
#187      
Ander1345
Chukwuwumba said:
I wonder what the rationale is.
RS 2020 covid
Says he played each season after.
Maybe related to Fitzgerald/ hazing issues? Did team get free transfer eligible afterwards?
Medical issue supposed RS freshman year?
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Its in one of the pressers. Bret said it's because of bad book keeping on how many games he played at NU. They believed he had only played 3 games in one year but it was actually 5 and one of the reasons they were so invested in him is because Bret thought it was 3 games.
 
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jamie13197
IMO, Coach B and his staff for his tenure has been a awesome evaluator of talent. Then, development speaks for itself. I hope this next 6.3 Wideout, is just as successful as PB!
We go out and get a stud from West Virginia. CFP, all the way.
 
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mhuml32
Ander1345 said:
Its in one of the pressers. Bret said it's because of bad book keeping on how many games he played at NU. They believed he had only played 3 games in one year but it was actually 5 and one of the reasons they were so invested in him is because Bret thought it was 3 games.
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As Illinois fans, he would be a great re-addition.

As CFB fans, I just have a tough time stomaching this if NCAA says yes. They (NCAA) keep losing in court (and judges are ripping them in their decisions) because they keep making exceptions that end up making eligibility rules unenforceable.
 
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Joel Goodson
which underclassmen are ready to take a step or three? in order, please and newbies are exempt. we have a ton of returning starters, so most of the younger guys are blocked from a lot of snaps, but that doesn't mean their contributions will be meaningless
 
#193      
DirtyBurgIllini
mhuml32 said:
As Illinois fans, he would be a great re-addition.

As CFB fans, I just have a tough time stomaching this if NCAA says yes. They (NCAA) keep losing in court (and judges are ripping them in their decisions) because they keep making exceptions that end up making eligibility rules unenforceable.
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He played a 5th game one year at NU at was playing like less than 10% of snaps is the base reasoning
 
#194      
mhuml32
DirtyBurgIllini said:
He played a 5th game one year at NU at was playing like less than 10% of snaps is the base reasoning
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I get it, but you can see a variety of judges saying the NCAA refuses to enforce a threshold for eligibility. The rule is games, not snaps. If the NCAA says that playing more than a fourth game means you've burned a year of eligibility, then you can't then say it's okay that you play (say) seven extra snaps in the fifth game, because what if it's 10 snaps? 15 snaps? Just come up with a rule, say you can't cross it, enforce it regardless of circumstance, and you might stop losing every court case.

I remember we had a laugh on these boards when Locksley was looking at getting Tualia an extra year of eligibility because he threw 12 passes in five games for Alabama as a freshman. Now our coaching staff is essentially asking for the same thing.
 
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fuddrules
mhuml32 said:
Heckel
Barna
Elzy
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That's a good list. I'll add, these two have already taken some steps, Malachi Hood and Jaheim Clarke. Seems like too many QB's or RB get the corner and our LB's are trailing. Hood was the only LB that made Lausch (NW) look slow.

I'll throw out a wild opinion. Bailey needs to tackle better. He side swipes way too often. He'll occasionally square up a runner but not often enough. Not exactly a fair comparison but if you watch Thieneman from PU (Now Oregon), that guy squares up a runner and drops him. Overall the D needs to improve a notch or two for Illinois to have a prayer to make the playoffs.

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#196      
DirtyBurgIllini
mhuml32 said:
I get it, but you can see a variety of judges saying the NCAA refuses to enforce a threshold for eligibility. The rule is games, not snaps. If the NCAA says that playing more than a fourth game means you've burned a year of eligibility, then you can't then say it's okay that you play (say) seven extra snaps in the fifth game, because what if it's 10 snaps? 15 snaps? Just come up with a rule, say you can't cross it, enforce it regardless of circumstance, and you might stop losing every court case.

I remember we had a laugh on these boards when Locksley was looking at getting Tualia an extra year of eligibility because he threw 12 passes in five games for Alabama as a freshman. Now our coaching staff is essentially asking for the same thing.
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Get your point. It's just a matter of the NCAA having essentially zero power now, so they may as well try to get an extra year.
 
#197      
mhuml32
DirtyBurgIllini said:
Get your point. It's just a matter of the NCAA having essentially zero power now, so they may as well try to get an extra year.
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That's my point, knowing this is my expanding it beyond Illinois football: What's stopping Luke Altmyer asking for another year next year? Or any player who has played four full seasons plus four full games as a freshman, why can't they just come back for a 6th season? Or 7th season? If NCAA has zero power, it means eligibility is no longer enforceable and players can play in college for as long as they want. Me and (assuming) millions of other fans aren't interested in college football becoming a 10+ year career for players.

I know that seems dramatic coming from TeRah asking for an extra year because of a few snaps in a fifth game, but the judges overseeing these cases are saying these examples are the problem, the lack of a "line in the sand" is what is eroding the NCAA's power to have any rules on when players have to stop playing college football.

Long term, this is a very bad thing for college sports.
 
#198      
mhuml32
I'll take a break from the doom and gloom now!

fuddrules said:
That's a good list. I'll add, these two have already taken some steps, Malachi Hood and Jaheim Clarke. Seems like too many QB's or RB get the corner and our LB's are trailing. Hood was the only LB that made Lausch (NW) look slow.

I'll throw out a wild opinion. Bailey needs to tackle better. He side swipes way too often. He'll occasionally square up a runner but not often enough. Not exactly a fair comparison but if you watch Thieneman from PU (Now Oregon), that guy squares up a runner and drops him. Overall the D needs to improve a notch or two for Illinois to have a prayer to make the playoffs.

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I actually think there is a really good group of sophomores and R-sophomores on this team that are ready to take a leap. It is very satisfying to have guys like Clarke, Barna, Farrell, Warren, Hood, etc. that would have needed to become all-B1G players next year for Illinois to be a bowl team under previous eras to now just hoping they can be solid for 10-20 snaps/game as rotational pieces. We are about 6-7 years removed from guys like Tanner Hollinger needing to somehow block for 15 snaps/game because of no positional depth to now guys like Hollinger will get another year of S&C before being pressed into action.
 
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Ander1345
fuddrules said:
That's a good list. I'll add, these two have already taken some steps, Malachi Hood and Jaheim Clarke. Seems like too many QB's or RB get the corner and our LB's are trailing. Hood was the only LB that made Lausch (NW) look slow.

I'll throw out a wild opinion. Bailey needs to tackle better. He side swipes way too often. He'll occasionally square up a runner but not often enough. Not exactly a fair comparison but if you watch Thieneman from PU (Now Oregon), that guy squares up a runner and drops him. Overall the D needs to improve a notch or two for Illinois to have a prayer to make the playoffs.

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Gave up a huge run to South Carolina because Bailey tried to just shoulder check the RB to the ground. He has the size and athleticism, but it's not quite the Quan Martin "how is he everywhere on the field???" Or Syd Brown/Witherspoon noticeably flying around on the field like they're possessed.
 
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blackdog
Ander1345 said:
Gave up a huge run to South Carolina because Bailey tried to just shoulder check the RB to the ground. He has the size and athleticism, but it's not quite the Quan Martin "how is he everywhere on the field???" Or Syd Brown/Witherspoon noticeably flying around on the field like they're possessed.
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Bailey definitely has some flaws but don't forget he just finished his second year of play time so he's still got a lot of room to grow with experience. The potential is enormous.
 
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