Illini in the NBA

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First place Chicago Bulls!

Spin: Dosunmu has settled himself as a starter with Lonzo Ball (knee) and Alex Caruso (wrist) sidelined, and he continues to make an impact for Chicago despite not having a prominent role on offense. The former Illinois standout is averaging 11.6 points, 6.4 assists and 4.2 rebounds per game since joining the starting lineup, and he has scored in double digits in six of his last seven contests.

 
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Franz Wagner MI 15 ppg 5 rbg Magic (15-35)
Luka Garza IA 5 ppg 3 rbg Pistons
Joe Wieskamp IA 2 ppg Spurs
Aaron Wiggins MD 7 ppg Thunder

Given how boad MI is this year maybe Wagner was good
 
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Franz Wagner MI 15 ppg 5 rbg Magic (15-35)
Luka Garza IA 5 ppg 3 rbg Pistons
Joe Wieskamp IA 2 ppg Spurs
Aaron Wiggins MD 7 ppg Thunder

Given how boad MI is this year maybe Wagner was good

I was one of many on this board that wasn’t particularly impressed with Wagner at Michigan. Clearly the scouts saw something we didn’t.

He’s shooting the three far better and has a much better A/TO than he did at Michigan. Which makes you question how he was employed there and how much talent was around him.
 
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Franz Wagner MI 15 ppg 5 rbg Magic (15-35)
Luka Garza IA 5 ppg 3 rbg Pistons
Joe Wieskamp IA 2 ppg Spurs
Aaron Wiggins MD 7 ppg Thunder

Given how boad MI is this year maybe Wagner was good
Still don't think he's good. It's a lot easier to get stats on a losing team (wagner) than a winning team (ayo)
 
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Popular wisdom was Ayo did not have athleticism to succeed in NBA. Also that his outside shot was not good enough. He has proven doubters wrong on both points. IMO he will continue to improve his game just like he did in college. Playing with Demar DeRozan is a great way to learn.
 

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OP didn't compare him to Ayo though. He compared him to Garza, Wieskamp and Wiggins, all of whom are also on losing teams, and still having significantly less impact than Wagner.
Fine, but Wagner was drafted #8 pick and the other 3 were either 2nd round or undrafted(IIRC). (Without checking) I'm sure Wagner's mpg are much higher than the rest of the list provided.

I compared Ayo because I would bet he has a more similar mpg.
 
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Fine, but Wagner was drafted #8 pick and the other 3 were either 2nd round or undrafted(IIRC). (Without checking) I'm sure Wagner's mpg are much higher than the rest of the list provided.

I compared Ayo because I would bet he has a more similar mpg.
Right now: Wagner > Ayo, but there's no doubt Ayo is maybe the best overall pick in terms of value.
 
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Wagner was draft 8th so he was a mid lottery pick. Ayo was drafted mid 2nd round 38th.

Right now IMO they are of equal trade value so Ayo has made up a lot of ground.

Kofi is going to be a steal for somebody late 2nd round. He is improving rapidly. Once he can hit the 15 footer and and pass better he will be very valuable. He is already a monster in the paint. Rebounding is still important in the NBA. Think Shaq or Sean Kemp. He just needs to keep improving.
 
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Wagner was draft 8th so he was a mid lottery pick. Ayo was drafted mid 2nd round 38th.

Right now IMO they are of equal trade value so Ayo has made up a lot of ground.

Kofi is going to be a steal for somebody late 2nd round. He is improving rapidly. Once he can hit the 15 footer and and pass better he will be very valuable. He is already a monster in the paint. Rebounding is still important in the NBA. Think Shaq or Sean Kemp. He just needs to keep improving.

uh, … sorry, but no.
 
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Think it depends on how you look at it. Ayo has a significantly higher eFG%
The interesting thing to me is that one represents NBA scouting at it's best (Wagner) the other at it's worst (Ayo). I was as skeptical of Wagner as anyone on here, but I'll freely admit the scouts were right on that one. They really did miss on Ayo though.
 
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This Bulls team still can’t rebound. I understand the move for Thompson and he is still finding his way in this team, but I haven’t been much impressed. Here is another comp, there is nothing this version of Tristian Thompson that Kofi couldn’t do on this level.
 
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Was wondering about Malcolm..but just saw him on the bench...is he hurt? Haven't seen him in a game for a bit.
 
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