Why is it "horsesh1t"?
Because of the reason(s) I already listed, no need to rehash
he wouldn't have won the natty, nor would he have been a top 10 pick.
Nobody knows that
Why is it "horsesh1t"?
he wouldn't have won the natty, nor would he have been a top 10 pick.
Yea probably true that if he stays here Dusty May does not influence his new team to draft an Illinois player #9.Does Rez become the 9th pick if he stays? Probably not…
Is Illinois better if he stays? Probably not bc that would mean no Mirk.
I think this is a rare case of win-win for both parties.
This is the kind of thing that could kill a program with a lesser coach.
How do they define “at the rim”? If he gets the ball 12 to 15 from the basket and makes a move to get a layup, is that at the rim? But that is very different than getting the ball 5 feet from the basket and getting a layup. Of course the majority of his shots are going to be at the rim, but you really think he would have been used the same way at Illinois this year as he was at Michigan?hoop-explorer.com has shot charts
at Illinois: 80% at rim, 20% mid-range, 0% threes
at Michigan: 67% at rim, 21% mid-range, 12% threes
Is he more efficient at the rim, or from three point range? Well, his 3 point percentage was in the 'below average' territory while his rim % was like 99th percentile
He got a tiny wee bit more freedom to shoot threes (he shot 35 total in 40 games at Michigan), but does that showcase what he's good at and what he will do in the NBA?
Doesn't really matter because he went 9th in the draft and got a NC, but this thought process that it happened because he shot a bunch of mid-range and 3s and was taking guys off the bounce and playmaking all year long is just wrong.
How do they define “at the rim”? If he gets the ball 12 to 15 from the basket and makes a move to get a layup, is that at the rim? But that is very different than getting the ball 5 feet from the basket and getting a layup. Of course the majority of his shots are going to be at the rim, but you really think he would have been used the same way at Illinois this year as he was at Michigan?
A lot is made of the 3-pt shot thing, but I don’t he ever wanted or expected to be hoisting up 100 of them on the season. But look at it from his perspective. He loses time to Ben because in large part Ben can hit from long range. You don’t think his thought process might have been, well hell, I can shoot 34.3% from three, which is what Ben shot? Turns out he could cuz that was his percentage at UM.
A narrative that refuses to die despite how absolutely wrong it is.A lot is made of the 3-pt shot thing, but I don’t he ever wanted or expected to be hoisting up 100 of them on the season. But look at it from his perspective. He loses time to Ben because in large part Ben can hit from long range. You don’t think his thought process might have been, well hell, I can shoot 34.3% from three, which is what Ben shot? Turns out he could cuz that was his percentage at UM.
How do they define “at the rim”? If he gets the ball 12 to 15 from the basket and makes a move to get a layup, is that at the rim? But that is very different than getting the ball 5 feet from the basket and getting a layup. Of course the majority of his shots are going to be at the rim, but you really think he would have been used the same way at Illinois this year as he was at Michigan?
A lot is made of the 3-pt shot thing, but I don’t he ever wanted or expected to be hoisting up 100 of them on the season. But look at it from his perspective. He loses time to Ben because in large part Ben can hit from long range. You don’t think his thought process might have been, well hell, I can shoot 34.3% from three, which is what Ben shot? Turns out he could cuz that was his percentage at UM.
He lost minutes at Illinois because he was playing behind Humrichous, who coach hoped would get out of his slump. Underwood is a fantastic coach, but this was a misstep -- Morez was already one of the better players in the B1G.He 100% played more at Michigan because he figured out how to defend without fouling.
He lost minutes at Illinois because he was playing behind Humrichous, who coach hoped would get out of his slump. Underwood is a fantastic coach, but this was a misstep -- Morez was already one of the better players in the B1G.
What? Did I say that? No.you think Morez Johnson is the 9th pick in the draft because he shot 34% from 3 on 35 attempts?
Ben shot 5x the attempts as Morez. This is akin to saying Carter Bryant shooting 41.4% from 3 on 1.3 attempts makes him as good or a better shooter than Jalen Brunson who shot 35.3% on 6.5 attempts.
One guy is coming off pindowns and curl cuts, being closely guarded, spotting up from deeper with less space. The other is taking wide open 3’s sparingly mostly to try and keep the defense somewhat honest. If that’s morez’s perspective that he’s a better shooter based on the percentage logic, he’s wrong, and every basketball front office exec and coach would agree.
Man, if you look at his game logs in the second half of last season you can literally see, with your own eyes, the games where Morez's play time dipped because of foul trouble. Dude was starting games and having to be pulled because he picked up early fouls. How is that everyone else's fault but his? You people give Morez more of a free pass than you give guys that live and breathe for this program it really is astounding.He lost minutes at Illinois because he was playing behind Humrichous, who coach hoped would get out of his slump. Underwood is a fantastic coach, but this was a misstep -- Morez was already one of the better players in the B1G.
Bingo.He lost minutes at Illinois because he was playing behind Humrichous, who coach hoped would get out of his slump. Underwood is a fantastic coach, but this was a misstep -- Morez was already one of the better players in the B1G.
Mirk committed 7 days after Morez entered the portal. Mirk wasn't a crazy prospect (averaged 9ppg and 7rb) and we didn't have another PF on the roster, how certain are we they were mutually exclusive? Honest question for those in the know.Does Rez become the 9th pick if he stays? Probably not…
Is Illinois better if he stays? Probably not bc that would mean no Mirk.
I think this is a rare case of win-win for both parties.
My guy was averaging a foul out (5.7) per 40 minutesMan, if you look at his game logs in the second half of last season you can literally see, with your own eyes, the games where Morez's play time dipped because of foul trouble. Dude was starting games and having to be pulled because he picked up early fouls. How is that everyone else's fault but his? You people give Morez more of a free pass than you give guys that live and breathe for this program it really is astounding.
Money and playing time.Mirk committed 7 days after Morez entered the portal. Mirk wasn't a crazy prospect (averaged 9ppg and 7rb) and we didn't have another PF on the roster, how certain are we they were mutually exclusive? Honest question for those in the know.
At the time Morez was slotted for a significant role in our O and was addition by subtraction for UM vs us. At least statistically, the idea that UM unlocked him or something is just wrong... His per 40 & per 100 possessions differences were not anything that wouldn't be explained by the Soph jump and not fouling as much.
It seems like win-win only in the sense that both teams won in the tournament and he was rewarded for breaking his contract ahead of house settlement repercussions.
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IMO, the problem with Morez was the staff saw him as a 5 and the backup to Tomi. But not as a 4.
Our top lineup should've been with the two on the court together.
IMO, the problem with Morez was the staff saw him as a 5 and the backup to Tomi. But not as a 4.
Our top lineup should've been with the two on the court together.
Do you think Morez’s freshman year role would’ve identical to his sophomore year role?IMO, the problem with Morez was the staff saw him as a 5 and the backup to Tomi. But not as a 4.
Our top lineup should've been with the two on the court together.
Morez committed when he was in 9th grade because he loved Illinois and wanted to stay home. No one had an ounce of a clue what the roster would be.But you truly believe the pitch to Morez was come back to Illinois and be the backup 5?
Well... he wasn't our top option at the 4. Ben was, and to an extent Tre. During the season, his role was mostly backup 5 (starting 5 when Tomi was out).Brad said over and over again he wanted those two together and put them together when healthy
To me this isn't even close.He sits firmly alongside Eric Gordon and Bruce Pearl in our Illini lore.
What? Did I say that? No.
He was picked where he was certainly in part and I think a fairly significant part because the offense he was now playing in allowed him to show off more aspects of his game. That’s not not a knock on the Illini offense. It’s a great offense, but it showcases guards and wings much more. Maybe it is just a crazy coincidence that both Morez and Mara improved their draft stock by a fair amount in the Michigan offense.
No.Do you think Morez’s freshman year role would’ve identical to his sophomore year role?