Illinois 21, South Carolina 17 Postgame

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#551      
Some thoughts a day later:

1. The announcing crew was super uninformed the whole game. It's like their pregame prep consisted of Sellers and Pat Bryant, and with Bryant out of the game, they just talked about Sellers non stop. Sellers finished with 11 runs for 19 yards, something they never really mentioned or acknowledged the Illini defense for.
2. The officials completely blew that McCray end zone call. Either he's down before he breaks the plane, or he scores a touchdown. The ball didn't come out until he was over the plane of the goal line and it's not visible on any replay. Defaulting to fumble is the only call that doesn't make sense and that's what they went with.
3. The substitutions by Bielema were specifically in response to late substitutions that Beamer was doing. The NCAA specifically changed the rule this year so Beamer couldn't get away with late substitutions on offense like that, and Bielema's response was exactly what the new rule was supposed to provide. Want to run a sped up offense? Don't substitute late on offense, that's what the other 100 FBS teams do.
4. The trick play where the returner signaled for no play (the T signal) and then brought it out was technically not against the rules, but it was a move specifically to get the Illinois defense to let up which could have led to player injury. But to do that and then complain when Bielema called him on it, and then later call Bielema's response bush league? Look in the mirror, dude.
5. The injury that Bielema came out for wasn't on that return play, it was later in the drive (Sellers rush that brought a knee to Clarke's helmet accidentally). However, it was just about one minute later and that's what Bielema was calling Beamer out on, which the announcers missed completely and then overreacted for the rest of the game.
6. Why was that sideline reporter in Beamer's pocket the whole game? He's the one that mischaracterized Bielema's response and literally talked with Beamer while Beamer was behaving like a drunk Karen at the bar. Total nonsense.
7. The Illini punter for the game is not cut out for punting, time to find one in the portal.
8. Despite the biased announcing and refs shafting the team of a TD, and opposing coach's whining, they still won the game and played their game plan to perfection. Maybe next year they can get in the playoff with an announcing team that's prepared and knows the rules and personnel.
 
#552      
I"m wondering if the Outstretch arms to indicate were not returning the ball is still in use? Can you do the fake thing on every return ..without penalty.?
 
#553      
I'm also doing a morning rewatch. Some stray observations:

It didn't work of course, but I had absolutely no issue with going for the onside kick. We weren't really stopping them on their side of the field anyway, so why not?

After seeing Laughery these past couple games I thought "he had to have been banged up earlier this year, he wasn't even close to this fast or elusive" and the announcers confirmed it.

Speaking of the commentary crew, the only good nugget they had to offer was when either Lemmonier or the sideline reporter said "if you're South Carolina the solution is simple: STOP SUBBING!"
 
#554      
Then Cam Ward only did that to set the passing record, and I still don't like it. He was only in it for his own statistics.

It's "all or nothing". If the game is important enough to play for a half, then it's important enough to play the full game.
Can NIL arrangements be set up to require playing the "entire" season? Or provide a bonus for post season play? With enough money on the line some players might find it worthwhile to take the chance playing in the bowls.
 
#556      
"The ball didn't come out until he was over the plane of the goal line and it's not visible on any replay. Defaulting to fumble is the only call that doesn't make sense and that's what they went with."

Looked like one of those plays where the defender takes the ball away after the play is over and then comes running out of the scrum proclaiming that he has the ball. Officials, who called nothing until the play was well over, fell for it for one of the very few times I've ever seen. The refs were clueless on the play and the replays, while they seemed to show McCray was either down or the ball had broken the plane, were not enough for the refs to overturn their original mistake.
 
#558      
And then we have to hear from Bill Lemonnier. Unbelievable. I still wonder what wouldn’t been had we beaten Michigan at home like we should have had his crew not blown multiple fumble calls. And then to have a bogus fumble call taking a TD away from us shortly after. Unreal!
I just do not understand how that guy has the job he has. It's unfathomable to me.

He was a terrible on-field official. He's an even worse rules analyst. He doesn't explain things well, as he uses a bunch of officiating jargon that non-officials would never understand. (I officiate a different sport, so I do understand those terms). He talks down to the audience. Most of the time, his rulings are completely off base in terms of interpreting the NCAA football rules.

The only rules analyst I've ever heard who is worse is when Mike Carey was CBS' NFL rules analyst for a season and was beyond terrible. When you listen to LeMonnier compared to someone who knows what he's talking about and can explain it to laypeople like Gene Steratore does on CBS (and for two different sports given he was an elite NFL and college basketball referee), and I don't see how LeMonnier continues to have gainful employment in this role.
 
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Watching the replay after hearing both coach's explanations it's very obvious what was happening.

The sideline reporter sent the entire viewing/online audience (and frankly his production team) into a rage with something that he completely made up. No part of "Bret Bielema taunted Shane Beamer with the substitution pose" actually happened.
 
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again, but Bret checked in with his injured player on that side of the field so his going that way wasn't completely isolated.

the most hilarious moment that encapsulated the entire game was the play USC burned their timeout for substitutions in the 4th. at that point, clearly the refs were allowing whatever was happening and USC substituted not once but twice (first with 17s on play clock and then with 10s on the play clock).

i mean, everyone in the stadium had to know what was then going to happen. if Beamer wants to be angry about losing a timeout, he should look in the mirror on that one
Agree about losing TO. Maybe he figured at some point refs would “come to their senses” and call a penalty on IL. After all, we’re from the mighty SEC.

I know it isn’t rare for a HC to check on a player, but it also doesn’t happen every time a player gets nicked up. Especially when player is already up on one knee. I don’t know the answer to this, but how many times did Bret come on to field (especially when not close to our sideline) to check on a player this year and did he come out each time? I’m guessing the answer to the latter question is not yes. Brad knew exactly what he was doing (and was going to do) when he started off. Some people act like he was just checking on player and then thought, hmmm, why don’t I show my displeasure with kickoff actions since I’m here already.
 
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Post-game notes!


(1) What a win, what a game, excellent drama. I went into the game feeling similar to the F4 game last year of low expectations and baked-in satisfaction for a great season, and this bowl game surpassed all expectations.

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(2) Feels special for the Class of 2019 & 2020 guys who stuck it out at Illinois. Having to go through COVID when they first get here, their head coach is fired, so much change in the CFB. This group really pushed things forward in a way that was a dream often discussed by fans but they made it happen. Special shout out to Seth Coleman, Casey Washington, Ryan Meed, Spoon, The Browns, Law Firm, Hugh Robertson, and Nick Fedanzo.

(3) After all of the frustration with the offensive line most of the year, they showed up and showed out against a heralded defensive line in a big way. The PFF numbers are becoming such trash that no one has good grades even when the team rushes for 183 yards and averages 5.2/carry, so I'm not even going to discuss it. The line opened holes. When they didn't, the running backs did an excellent job of shedding tackles. Loved the barge package (felt like this was more Bielema showing disrespect (in a good way!) to Beamer than the fracas during the game), to the point where I wish Illinois would have stuck with it more because SoCar refused to change their personnel in response. Big game for Bart Miller, absolute kudos to him. Now let's bring back JC Davis and return every starter and see if the unit can [sips bourbon) win a Joe Moore award.

(4) WR snaps, just to point out (59 offensive snaps):
Franklin - 46
Elzy - 27 (most snaps all season)
ACJ - 22
Dixon - 17
Beatty - 13
- Feels like Dixon and Beatty were in on pivotal passing downs, but it's interesting that Elzy and ACJ played some of their most snaps all season. I do think Elzy could be a very important piece next year. Assuming the top-5 WRs next year are (in no order) Bowick, Dixon, Beatty, ACJ, and Elzy - The staff knows that Beatty and ACJ are your chain-movers. Bowick looks like Franklin size with less polished route running but a better deep threat. That leaves Dixon and Elzy as the two options that need to bring athleticism, the options where Luke can get them the ball and they can rack up YAC.

(5) Today was the pinnacle of what the 2024 and 2025 RB room can achieve. Laughery, McCray, and Valentine were all positives. A second healthy offseason for Laughery, the first healthy offseason for McCray in three years, and Valentine getting his first offseason in college could really make this unit a nasty one next year.

(6) Defensive line did exactly what was asked of them. They kept Sellers in the pocket and limited the rushing attack. 33 rushing attempts for 130 yards against a P4 team that averaged 178 YPG. Illinois defense had more sacks, TFLs, and pass deflections than South Carolina.

(7) It wasn't spectacular but the linebacker crew had possibly their best game of the year. Sellers was out of sorts with Illinois running much more zone than normal and any dump offs or short throws were immediately cleaned up by the LBers.

(8) The secondary was great and has a chance to be really, really special next year. Was hoping to see Woodward play today but PFF doesn't list him as taking any snaps, but that doesn't matter. A returning unit of Bailey, M. Scott, X. Scott, Patterson, Cox, and Resetich has a very high floor. Sprinkle in a year of development for guys like Clarke, Woodward, and Heckel and it could be scary.

(9) Need to find a punter. Nothing else to be said.

(10) I know I said they stink earlier, so grain of salt here, but there are some really exciting underclassmen defender trends on PFF that are worth mentioning. There are a handful of guys that seem to take a step up in play since the Michigan or Minnesota portion of the schedule, so roughly halfway through:

Alex Bray - run defense noticeably improved
Alec Bryant - not really a young guy but his pressures increased and became consistent
Mac Resetich - coverage scores noticeably improved and he might already be the best pass rushing secondary piece on the team
JoJo Hayden - run defense noticeably improved
James Kreutz - run defense and tackling improved
Malachi Hood - overall scores improved

The run defense improving is going to be a pivotal component for 2025. The secondary is so good that many teams are going to defer to running out of necessity. If the run defense can force more long distances third downs...


First 10-win season in 23 years
First win over an SEC team in ever
First time with two above .500 B1G conference records in three seasons in 33 years

Just look at the coaching records below
 
#567      
The place was nuts from the opening kick. Both fan bases screaming for the first series or two. Screaming for a call or protesting a call. The best comparison I can come up with is an Illinois/IU basketball game with Knight on the verge of a technical and the SFC deafening.

From the booth, it was a fantastic atmosphere. The team and coaches were the calmest people in the stadium. My fitbit was going crazy with my heart rate and active zone and I was SITTING! I still put the Michigan game #1 this season, but this is 1a.

Camping World Stadium is very nice. I don't know if Orlando will ever get a NFL team, but if they do, Camping World Stadium will be a nice venue for a franchise.

Just an amazing season.
 
#568      
Trying to get grips on the "Trick" play. So, the SC player indicated by outstretch arms that we would not return, but then he caught the ball and started running. Not sure I''m understand the play......anybody help?
 
#570      
THIS! Why is nobody discussing this in the media? Beamer should honestly be ashamed of himself. If he didn't like the substitution situation then he should have stopped subbing players in. He showed the whole world what a tool he is yesterday on national TV.
If the weather is crummy and I'm bored this weekend, I'm seriously considering rewatching the game and recording the times Beamer is on TV acting normally vs acting like a nut job (being restrained by his hype man, berating the alternate referee on the SC sideline, etc.). It would be very interesting to see what that ratio was.
 
#571      
Agree about losing TO. Maybe he figured at some point refs would “come to their senses” and call a penalty on IL. After all, we’re from the mighty SEC.

I know it isn’t rare for a HC to check on a player, but it also doesn’t happen every time a player gets nicked up. Especially when player is already up on one knee. I don’t know the answer to this, but how many times did Bret come on to field (especially when not close to our sideline) to check on a player this year and did he come out each time? I’m guessing the answer to the latter question is not yes. Brad knew exactly what he was doing (and was going to do) when he started off. Some people act like he was just checking on player and then thought, hmmm, why don’t I show my displeasure with kickoff actions since I’m here already.
100% agree Bielema knew what he was doing. just felt the optics were slightly different than if he did that without a player down.

how awesome is it that these are the things we're discussing instead of a loss!!
 
#572      
Couple more notes that I'm sure were previously addressed.

Sellers' throw on the 4th down on SC's final drive missed by like 10 feet. It should have been high and outside and was low and inside.

The blocking on McCray's long run was nothing short of spectacular. Freaking Collin Dixon stoned two guys.
 
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