Illinois 26, Minnesota 14 Postgame
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Great article (but then I am a History major so that may explain my interest). Thanks for sharing. And more please. I assume they never built that reflecting pool (or whatever it is called) on one of the sides of the stadium (not to be confused with Lake Zuppke). Looks cool but probably impractical and it probably did not add anything to the attraction of the stadium other than aesthetically.I think the bigger problem is the abandoned buried bulldozer under the field. /s
Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
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A Wisconsin alum and fan here. I think you guys got a great Coach in BB. I always felt he was under appreciated at Wisconsin. You will see some head scratchers here and there, but year in and year out you will see players coached up and truly over achieve out of nowhere. Don't obsess with recruiting rankings and that BS, he will get kids playing tough year in and year out. Enjoy the ride because you are in for a number of years of being more than relevant IMHO. Congrats!
Well said…If you want to switch sides, you’re always welcome here!
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
You would hope we can start getting more eyeballs on us going forward.
Biggest rating of the season for UT-Bama and my god did those viewers get a show.
That rating for USC-Utah (another awesome game) is why the Pac 12 orphans can't gin up major league TV money.
redwingillini11
White and Sixth
- North Aurora
Not great, Bob!
You would hope we can start getting more eyeballs on us going forward.
Biggest rating of the season for UT-Bama and my god did those viewers get a show.
That rating for USC-Utah (another awesome game) is why the Pac 12 orphans can't gin up major league TV money.
Is that number only for viewers watching on BTN? I ask because I don't have BTN, and watched the game through the Fox sports app on Roku
You would hope we can start getting more eyeballs on us going forward.
Biggest rating of the season for UT-Bama and my god did those viewers get a show.
That rating for USC-Utah (another awesome game) is why the Pac 12 orphans can't gin up major league TV money.
Incredible weekend for exciting games.
You would hope we can start getting more eyeballs on us going forward.
Biggest rating of the season for UT-Bama and my god did those viewers get a show.
That rating for USC-Utah (another awesome game) is why the Pac 12 orphans can't gin up major league TV money.
So the noon BTN slot in week 6 was Purdue at Maryland with 400K.
Illinois at Wisconsin was week 5 and was 573K
week 4 was central Michigan at Penn State with 628K
I'd think (but definitely could be wrong) that ratings go up as season progresses. At least for teams that are winning.
I'm not sure where BTN compares to ESPN2 in terms of tiers in various markets. I'd think that from a pregame marketing, ESPN2 would not be ideal. If you're on BTN, they're going to be promoting you all week.
Thanks for the link to this site. great stuff.
Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
That's where this stuff gets difficult--unless there's a lengthy appendix to the stats, there's no way to know if it's an apples to apples rating. Some networks provide streaming numbers, some don't, and of course it's impossible to count illegal streams.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Gotta be clear about "streaming".
Youtube TV, Sling TV, those kinds of services that offer an internet-based app-based version of cable ARE counted in those numbers. People who are "cord cutters" in that sense (like me!) are captured there, which is important since that's a very significant share of the market now, approaching half.
The Fox Sports App on Roku would be different though as that's not watching it "through" BTN, at least that's my understanding. Stuff like that gets listed separately for Super Bowl ratings and the like (ie when the most recent Super Bowl was on both NBC and Peacock)
Those kinds of streaming numbers are a rounding error, not worth reporting, it doesn't change the math at all.
Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
As far as I am aware, this isn't true. The last time I checked (late last season) CBS and NBC don't include streaming numbers in their viewership numbers. That may have changed, but I haven't found a definitive statement on this. CBS and NBC may have a low amount of streamers, but ESPN and BTN/Fox most likely have a lot more because they promote them much harder, and have a lot more content for the cord cutters than the 4 or 5 CFB games CBS and NBC might broadcast between them on a Saturday.
First, Roku, AppleTv, FireSticks, Android TV, etc. are all considered "Cord Cutters", they simply provide an a la carte method to accessing streaming via apps rather than a large subscription. Second, you have no way of knowing if that is a rounding error or not, because as I said before, some of those providers don't disclose if they include streaming stats in their ratings. Anecdotal, of course, but I know a LOT of people that stream on their PC or an app on their TV/device. I've often got a game going on the TV while I'm streaming a different game on the laptop, and based on my Reddit interactions, I'm far from the only one.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
You're mixing hardware with software here. Forget the hardware, it's the software that matters.
Hulu Live, Youtube TV, services like that are called Virtual MVPD's (Multichannel Video Programming Distributors) as opposed to wired cable or dish which are MVPD's. But all are bundles of linear TV channels you pay monthly for.
All of the above are tracked by Nielsen for ratings purposes. It all goes into one number, it's all reflected in the chart above.
You can also sometimes watch content that is being shown on a linear TV network on broadcaster-specific apps. Think ESPN+ or Peacock which will show you anything that's on NBC or ESPN. HOWEVER, in all cases I'm aware of, you need a cable (or other MVPD) login in order to access that content on the app.
That is absolutely also true in the case of BTN and the Fox Sports App. You must ALREADY be a BTN subscriber in order to watch it there. But it allows those subscribers some mobility in theory to watch on their phone or tablet or whatever. But, Comcast, Direct TV, every reputable MVPD I'm aware of also offers mobile app-based viewing now, so it's entirely unnecessary.
All of which is to say, there's no reason to watch linear TV content via the app, and when measured the numbers are nothing, they don't make a dent.
You SHOULD take a chart like the above with a grain of salt for the same reason you should take a political poll with a grain of salt, there is a healthy "margin of error". The statistical certainty that the "619k" audience for Illinois-Minnesota was higher than the "603k" of Temple-UCF is not high at all. But when compared with the games that got a million there is much stronger statistical certainty there.
Very well done practical summary