I am expecting Goode to lead...or hope he does. Rogers also if he can hit free throws...and he has the most sound fundamentals of the three struggling frosh. Never know who will transfer but if I were BU, I would certainly look for a strong leader.
Illinois 68, Alabama A&M 47 Postgame
We have three struggling frosh?
Having led young men in battle and on the field of athletic competition, there is not a huge difference. You need to find a way to communicate, motivate, and support them to gain their respect and the respect of your teammates. It is not easy but necessary to be successful in both.
That's a reasonable take. Ultimately if he goes too far, Whitman will step in I'm sure.
In the end, we all know hot headed coaches who are great successes. Winning covers alot of concerns. Bob Knight may be the ultimate example of hot head and winning coach.
Biggest concern I have is this was the week for player meetings (finals...less practice, more meetings). A little concerned that we spent a week with player meetings and apparently BUs words didn't get through or connect with some key players.
Um….you do realize that was close to a half century ago don’t you?
Times have changed my man.
My father beat the piss out of me when I needed a whipping’. That was in the 70’s.
I turned out ok….but that doesn’t make it right or make it the way it should be or that it needs to be.
This antiquated mentality that coaches should be able to say, do, or treat individuals however they want because they are coaches is insane.
The world is changing and this 60 year old gets it.
There’s a time for tough love….for tough coaching….but to automatically dismiss the fact that this younger generation doesn’t need to be treated differently than my generation is simply ignorant.
Coleman looked like he was completely ignoring BU, just an impression.
Houston scored 50 poihts from the paint yesterday
We have made 14 out 50 shots from 3pt range the last two games.
Finding ways to improve team shootihg will solve a lot or problems on this team.
JJE
- Bethalto, IL
Man, everyone harping on Underwood is crazy to me. These are grown men on his team and can I also add what no one is saying, grown men getting paid. For every Mark Smith and Kipper Nichols of the world who didn't respond to his coaching well there is a Da'monte Williams and Trent Frazier who did and thrived.
Underwood yells and he always has except when his team had on court leaders like the past couple of years. His intensity shouldn't surprise anyone especially the guys on the team who knew the kind of coach he was before committing. The guy isn't perfect, but I'll take his history of being a great coach and leader over any player no matter how good they are.
Underwood yells and he always has except when his team had on court leaders like the past couple of years. His intensity shouldn't surprise anyone especially the guys on the team who knew the kind of coach he was before committing. The guy isn't perfect, but I'll take his history of being a great coach and leader over any player no matter how good they are.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
Matthew Mayer scores 21 to lead No. 18 Illini past Alabama A&M
Matthew Mayer scored 21 points to lead the No. 18-ranked Illinois Fighting Illini past Alabama A&M men's basketball.
CHAMPAIGN, Ill. — Matthew Mayer scored 21 points and grabbed seven rebounds to help No. 18 Illinois overcome Alabama A&M’s comeback push for a 68-47 win Saturday.
Big Jack
- Decatur
I woke today to realize its effects have now infiltrated the Illinois Loyalty threads. Guess I need to figure out this feature to only follow those who speak sense and ignore the rest. Carry on Tim or Tyler at least you know what you are talking about.. Others hmmmm not so much.
FYi I was sitting within ear shot of Brad yesterday and never saw him berate an assistant only players who needed it for lack of hustle or not playing as instructed!
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Haven’t read through entire thread yet, so apologize if this has already been addressed.
Definitely agree on the body language thing. People on here have been commenting on Hawkins’ body language just about since day 1 to the point that I think there has been speculation after each season that he would transfer. He’s still here. Maybe Brad has just done a great sales job each off season or maybe body language analysis isn’t all people think it is.
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Steelyunk
- Tobacco Road
OK, so we’re really gonna do this “Michael Mayer” thing, I guess. Hell, I’m old enough to remember the game where you got your screen name. Just leave SpongeBob out of this.
Steelyunk
- Tobacco Road
I think that’s where the “be patient” part comes in. This team 8-3. They will get better. Their souls are being tested in the fire…
Aw hell I’m channeling pruman but it’s Lebowski gifs…
Yeah
Yeah
Oh yeah
Maybe that can be my thing. Dunno. Can’t be that many Lebowski gifs.
Anyway… in the words of the Stranger, sometimes you eat the bear… and, sometimes the bear… well, he eats you.
Steelyunk
- Tobacco Road
Forget it, Jake, it’s Illinois fanbase.DAMN did we lose?
Lay off my coach
USAFILLINI
- Florida
Those things do not have to go hand in hand, and if you don’t understand that, you’re missing what leadership is all about. I’m a BU fan, but his inability to adjust the rage is a huge leadership failure IMO.
When players are telling other players to just “tone it out” it’s fair to say those antics are causing the message to be missed. We’ve seen BU teams fall apart down the stretch a lot (not just Illinois, it’s a staple of his teams his whole career/stats and records don’t lie). BU led teams end up being soft in the NCAA tournament, why is that?
I’ll share why I wouldn’t fold in major athletics if you are willing to share proof why you wouldn’t.
Some point of reference. Believe this team is better than the 2018-19 team that was Ayo's sophomore year. That team loss to a bad/average Miami and Missouri team. Believe team is hitting a funk during finals/holidays. The team is loaded, beating Texas and UCLA was no fluke. But we will be an easy out if free throws and consistency doesn't improve.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
I think that’s where the “be patient” part comes in. This team 8-3. They will get better. Their souls are being tested in the fire…
Aw hell I’m channeling pruman but it’s Lebowski gifs…
Yeah
Yeah
Oh yeah
Maybe that can be my thing. Dunno. Can’t be that many Lebowski gifs.
Anyway… in the words of the Stranger, sometimes you eat the bear… and, sometimes the bear… well, he eats you.
This is how i feel when someone brings up BU's ranting's........if the team was doing what they should be doing then BU would be like ....................
Wow man ..............Illini Karma .....................catch it...............shoot it ......................score it........................rinse..........repeat..................
The path to a Natty is froth with many hindrances .........BU's ranting is NOT a hindrance , but a blessing of future advances for the common Illini good....
“On the fields of friendly strife are sown the seeds that on other days, on other fields will bear the fruits of victory.”
― Douglas MacArthur
Pretty much everyone thought BU's Goode as starter comment was coachspeak. Maybe it was true and some of these issues are why he was going that direction. Let's hope getting him on the court helps.
Leadership
“The discipline which makes the soldiers of a free country reliable in battle is not to be gained by harsh or tyrannical treatment. On the contrary, such treatment is far more likely to destroy than to make an army. It is possible to impart instruction and give commands in such a manner and such a tone of voice as to inspire in the soldier no feeling but an intense desire to obey, while the opposite manner and tone of voice cannot fail to excite strong resentment and a desire to disobey. The one mode or other of dealing with subordinates springs from a corresponding spirit in the breast of the commander. He who feels the respect which is due to others, cannot fail to inspire in them respect for himself, while he who feels, and hence manifests disrespect towards others, especially his subordinates, cannot fail to inspire hatred against himself.”
Lieutenant General John M. Schofield, USA (from his graduation address to the West Point class of 1879)
“The discipline which makes the soldiers of a free country reliable in battle is not to be gained by harsh or tyrannical treatment. On the contrary, such treatment is far more likely to destroy than to make an army. It is possible to impart instruction and give commands in such a manner and such a tone of voice as to inspire in the soldier no feeling but an intense desire to obey, while the opposite manner and tone of voice cannot fail to excite strong resentment and a desire to disobey. The one mode or other of dealing with subordinates springs from a corresponding spirit in the breast of the commander. He who feels the respect which is due to others, cannot fail to inspire in them respect for himself, while he who feels, and hence manifests disrespect towards others, especially his subordinates, cannot fail to inspire hatred against himself.”
Lieutenant General John M. Schofield, USA (from his graduation address to the West Point class of 1879)