Illinois 74, Iowa 72 Big Ten Championship Postgame

#429      
What does that mean?

In the second half, the Orange Krush started chanting "Safety school" when Iowa was shooting free throws. Safety school meaning, you apply to it because you know you will get accepted, and if you don't get accepted at better schools, you go there. The first three free throws where this was being chanted, Iowa missed the FT. And I would guess they were something like 2/8 or 3/10 from the line when this was being chanted.

I was sitting in 100 level (lower level) and was also chanting it, as were many others, after the Krush started.
 
#430      

InDaAZ

Eugene, Oregon
Heard Underwood tell a funny story on his radio show tonight.

So he had told Hawkins during shootaround prior to the game that he was going to need to give them 12 rebounds in the game. Hawkins ended up with 11.

Hawkins texted Underwood this morning and said "Coach I came up short".

Underwood texted him back just two words..."D*** it" :LOL::LOL::LOL:
Clearly, though, it’s all Underwood’s fault for giving Hawkins a measly 37 minutes of playing time…
“I can’t board from the bench, Coach!”
 
#435      
I can get that you love Andre/ me to.
Let's get something straight, he had four turnovers in the Box Score.
This is not including the plays that should have been scored turnovers!
Also he gave up 3 wide-open 3-point shots because he was running all over the defensive end not guarding his man. Point 2, he made about six passes in the half-court set that got thrown to us but went off Iowa so that did not get counted as turnovers!!!!! we can talk about that pass he made from one side of the Court to the other side of the Court through eight players and off Iowa, not Counted as a turnover. we can talk about the pass he made it Kofi's toes but out of bounds on Iowa, but we kept the ball!
I can keep going we love Andre we all agree on that but he has got to slow down and quit playing hero ball do your thing Curbelo, Drive around but do not get too deep and have to throw up a shot that gets blocked that doesn't get counted as a turnover!!!!! enough is enough that will cost us big time In tourney. This is not the Harlem Globetrotters ball! And yes, I love Curbelo!
 
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#438      
Unfortunately, that will probably not cease to happen in one form or the other. He plays by instinct much of the time. The question is, does it benefit the team more when he is on the court at that particular time? He is a huge reason why we won the game. My feeling is though, if he would have played more UNDER CONTROL, we could have won more comfortably. As far as the defensive end, no matter what you think, he is a great on ball defender. Much better than Plummer. When he and Trent are out on the court together, it is tougher for the other team to get into their sets at times. So, yes, I agree that there is a probability that he will make some costly mistakes and blunders in the tournament that will hurt us. But overall, he gives the team another dimension that other teams have to account for when he is in the game and gives Trent a blow when needed. He is very valuable if this team is to make a run in the tournament. I would say he could be the difference between a sweet sixteen and final four run. That is my opinion after watching him now for almost 2 years.
 
#439      
In the second half, the Orange Krush started chanting "Safety school" when Iowa was shooting free throws. Safety school meaning, you apply to it because you know you will get accepted, and if you don't get accepted at better schools, you go there. The first three free throws where this was being chanted, Iowa missed the FT. And I would guess they were something like 2/8 or 3/10 from the line when this was being chanted.

I was sitting in 100 level (lower level) and was also chanting it, as were many others, after the Krush started.
Got it.....makes sense now. I couldn't make out on TV what was being chanted, but it was obviously getting to them.
 
#440      
Unfortunately, that will probably not cease to happen in one form or the other. He plays by instinct much of the time. The question is, does it benefit the team more when he is on the court at that particular time? He is a huge reason why we won the game. My feeling is though, if he would have played more UNDER CONTROL, we could have won more comfortably. As far as the defensive end, no matter what you think, he is a great on ball defender. Much better than Plummer. When he and Trent are out on the court together, it is tougher for the other team to get into their sets at times. So, yes, I agree that there is a probability that he will make some costly mistakes and blunders in the tournament that will hurt us. But overall, he gives the team another dimension that other teams have to account for when he is in the game and gives Trent a blow when needed. He is very valuable if this team is to make a run in the tournament. I would say he could be the difference between a sweet sixteen and final four run. That is my opinion after watching him now for almost 2 years.
I agree with you - to reach out peak performance as a team, it has to be with good Belo playing significant minutes and running the offense. I do think the variance in his play will start to normalize to a very high mean over time (may not be this year). In the first Purdue game, he was the best player on the court, including Kofi and Ivey, other times he's struggled, but so has every player on this team.

The biggest area I think he can and will improve on is situational awareness - when to step on the peddle and make something happen and when it's not needed - the drive where he got the charge called (it wasn't a charge, but it would have been a turnover anyway) with a little more than 2 min left, just can't happen, just dribbling the ball for 30 seconds is not a bad outcome in that possession, but an unforced turnover with 20 seconds on the shot clock is an awfully negative play -once he learns to pick his spots a bit better, we'll take the negative plays for all the positive ones all day long, he's that good. Some of this is on the coaching staff too - the last 3 minutes of a close game should be set plays with explicit action to get into
 
#441      
I agree with you - to reach out peak performance as a team, it has to be with good Belo playing significant minutes and running the offense. I do think the variance in his play will start to normalize to a very high mean over time (may not be this year). In the first Purdue game, he was the best player on the court, including Kofi and Ivey, other times he's struggled, but so has every player on this team.

The biggest area I think he can and will improve on is situational awareness - when to step on the peddle and make something happen and when it's not needed - the drive where he got the charge called (it wasn't a charge, but it would have been a turnover anyway) with a little more than 2 min left, just can't happen, just dribbling the ball for 30 seconds is not a bad outcome in that possession, but an unforced turnover with 20 seconds on the shot clock is an awfully negative play -once he learns to pick his spots a bit better, we'll take the negative plays for all the positive ones all day long, he's that good. Some of this is on the coaching staff too - the last 3 minutes of a close game should be set plays with explicit action to get into
I tend to think of him as an artist-you have to give him freedom in order for the brilliance to come out. Personally I don't think we go far in the tournament without him leading us because he's the bridge between Kofi and the 3 point shooters-we can get flat without his bursts of inspiration. I say more and more Andre!
 
#442      
Can someone explain to me how we have to “share” the title?

We won vs. Wisconsin. Shouldn’t that be the tiebreaker? That’s OUR title!
 
#443      

drsmitty74

Rochester
Can someone explain to me how we have to “share” the title?

We won vs. Wisconsin. Shouldn’t that be the tiebreaker? That’s OUR title!
Regular season is based solely on conference record. There is no tiebreaker. There can be multiple co-champs if they have the same conf record.
The BTT seeding goes by conf record, but has a head to head tie breaker. We beat WI, so we got the BTT #1 seed.
 
#444      
Kind of ironic that you posted that, as Jack Trudeau was at yesterday’s game.
Thanks for sharing the Dan Roan/Illinois-Michigan wrap up. How times have changed, with NU, Indiana, and Minny still on the schedule the announcer said "The Illini are going to Pasadena"
 
#445      
The illinois v iowa game on BTN condensed to 60 minutes. If you haven't seen it another time, I'd recommend doing so. It's much less anxiety provoking knowing we will be crowned B10 CHAMPS at the end of it.
 
#447      
Man, I know I'm waaaaay late to this party. But I'll be damned if I don't get me at least one drink in and a lil rant.

I caught the Illini's final Big Ten matchup at the Houston airport via my iPad, and was really blessed to see the game in its entirety as a result of 2 flight delays. Someone mentioned the basketball gods casting favor on us for this game - I definitely felt a small dose of divine intervention in the air that evening to be able to watch til the end.

I listened to the game audio via headphones, or in other words, I was in an acoustic bubble. There was the ferocious sound of a basketball game with a championship on the line inside my head, but relative silence external to me. And so, during my numerous and heated emotional outbursts - of disbelief and despair, frustration and emerging pain, guarded optimism, frustration and pain again, optimism again, euphoria, disbelief, disbelief, disbelief, and then euphoria again - people would occasionally look over, reactively, in my direction, some with a look of pity on their faces in their assumption that I had a meaningfully serious mental and emotional disorder. "That poor guy, it must be so hard to live with his condition".

More than anything, right now - before we join in the Big Ten tournament, before March Madness - I'm trying to remember to give thanks for these past 3 seasons. Seasons of profound joy, aesthetic and emotional beauty, and redemption. I mean, what, we've beaten Michigan how many straight times? Put down the Hoosiers how many straight times? Trashed Wisconsin how many times in a row?

Just how many exquisite moments of celebration and utter happiness and pride - from insane plays and performances, explosive rallies, cold blooded game winners, beatdowns of rivals who not so long ago properly owned us, and, yes, from banners won, too - have we been gifted these past 3 seasons?

I think it would be a tremendous exercise in self awareness for all of us to start at the beginning of this season, or even last season, and revisit all of the comments/posts we've made along the way. What we see is that the pain of losing is so powerful, so dark in its corruptive magic, that at times it blurs our ability to see just how f-in glorious the past few seasons have been, as entire bodies of work. I mean, for most of us writing and reading here, we endured a decade and a half of real famine, before arriving at this bountiful harvest that is the realization of the Underwood era.

Whatever happens from here on out... we have so, so much to be grateful for, already.

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