Illinois 81, Iowa 61 Postgame

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#176      
I'm glad it happened, but a good coaching staff wouldn't need the players to tell them what adjustments need to be made.
Disagree. A good coaching staff with a good veteran team would exchange thoughts routinely. The way we’ve gotten accustomed to no adjustments being made is the issue. So it’s news when one happens. Credit our coaches with listening. At least.
 
#177      
Good question, but also you can't take away too much from soundly beating a weak team. Iowa is in the bottom of the conference, and they are without their best player. Being without that best player led directly to some of the ease by which Tomi was able to score.

You take your win and are happy about it. But saying all is well, we've fixed the problems is a stretch.
I totally agree with this. Iowa is not good. Illinois did exactly what they needed to do. As a result Illinois took some steps forward tonight. It is always good to play a cupcake after getting thrashed by a blueblood. Just what the doctor ordered.
 
#178      
Good question, but also you can't take away too much from soundly beating a weak team. Iowa is in the bottom of the conference, and they are without their best player. Being without that best player led directly to some of the ease by which Tomi was able to score.

You take your win and are happy about it. But saying all is well, we've fixed the problems is a stretch.
Agree, they made us look better overall and that was just what this team needed. I will also point out that we were without one of our best players as well, and Iowa did not have to worry about his big body presence down low but Tomi still dominated them.
 
#179      
I think Ben was extremely efficient on offense as a limited possession player. He got two good looks and made them. And in fairness to Ben, I think he's been the best on the team in getting himself quality 3pt looks all season, he just hasn't hit them. Outside of that though, he only actively participated in 6% of the possessions he was on the court for, which again is fine for a limited possession high efficiency role player, but the reason people on that end would think he played well is he made his open shots going 2 for 2. For example, had he missed those shots, I don’t think people would still say he played well offensively. Yes, that's obvious, but when you are a low active possession player, your makes and misses become more obvious. So on offense I personally didn't see all that much difference from him offensively other than making his open shots.

Defense though I wouldn't say he played particularly well, as I think his struggles to keep up with the Iowa players contributed heavily with Iowa's first half run and some of Iowa's best looks. He wasn't as poor defensively as Jake or Dra today, but I also wouldn't categorize his defense as all that good. That said, Ben did come up with 3 big steals today which is huge and much improved from average and he did get a few rebounds as well.

So overall, I'd say Ben played fine today as a sub and better than normal. Ate up minutes while resting the starters and made his open shots. Basically did what he was called on to do and didn't pout about the reduced role, and that part was great to see and shows Ben's leadership, maturity, and willingness to be a team player. And that to me was what most impressed me about his play last night

Yeah I agree with pretty much all of that. He did have 3 steals in 14 minutes of play, so overall didn't think the defense was 'bad' per se. I expect a 5'11 dart like Harding to smoke a 6'9 guy off the dribble so its not like I was searching for a CoHawk-like ability to stay in front when he ends up in that situation.

I think if you continue to see him play well off of the bench like this, it is just further confirmation that he was in over his head playing 30-35 minutes for this team, and this is the kind of role he can have on this team and actually help it succeed.
 
#180      
Broken wrists can run a spectrum but this seems really quick to get a guy back even after the most simple wrist break. Would love to hear from MD's out there. My wife had a bad one at the ice rink here on campus last year and she is still adjusting to even golfing.
Hard to know what Rez's prognosis is. I pray he takes care of himself and not come back too soon.

Hoping he is not dealing with a navicular bone injury as they can be really nasty. Ask Bob Horner.
I broke my wrist while goofing off during a road trip to Ann Arbor my senior year at UIUC. Was in a cast for six months... while interviewing. Not fun.

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#181      
I think Ben was extremely efficient on offense as a limited possession player. He got two good looks and made them. And in fairness to Ben, I think he's been the best on the team in getting himself quality 3pt looks all season, he just hasn't hit them. Outside of that though, he only actively participated in 6% of the possessions he was on the court for, which again is fine for a limited possession high efficiency role player, but the reason people on that end would think he played well is he made his open shots going 2 for 2. For example, had he missed those shots, I don’t think people would still say he played well offensively. Yes, that's obvious, but when you are a low active possession player, your makes and misses become more obvious. So on offense I personally didn't see all that much difference from him offensively other than making his open shots.

Defense though I wouldn't say he played particularly well, as I think his struggles to keep up with the Iowa players contributed heavily with Iowa's first half run and some of Iowa's best looks. He wasn't as poor defensively as Jake or Dra today, but I also wouldn't categorize his defense as all that good. That said, Ben did come up with 3 big steals today which is huge and much improved from average and he did get a few rebounds as well.

So overall, I'd say Ben played fine today as a sub and better than normal. Ate up minutes while resting the starters and made his open shots. Basically did what he was called on to do and didn't pout about the reduced role, and that part was great to see and shows Ben's leadership, maturity, and willingness to be a team player. And that to me was what most impressed me about his play last night
Agreed on defensive comments. He probably is suited for a zone defender.
 
#183      
Good question, but also you can't take away too much from soundly beating a weak team. Iowa is in the bottom of the conference, and they are without their best player. Being without that best player led directly to some of the ease by which Tomi was able to score.

You take your win and are happy about it. But saying all is well, we've fixed the problems is a stretch.
I never said "all is well, we've fixed the problems." Not sure where you got that from. I agree that them missing Freeman was a big reason why the D looked better. But you also have to acknowledge that there were adjustments in overall scheme that played a role in winning that game. Both things can be true at the same time...not sure why we're arguing. LOL!
 
#184      
Many of us have been calling for Will to start and Ben to come off the bench for a couple of months now and hopefully that sticks going forward.

It’s not Ben hate- it’s just what role fits him, come in and hit open threes and grab some rebounds and be in the right spots on D - essentially Luke Goode’s role last year. And it seemed to be perfect for Ben. If he starts and plays 30 min- he has to take open threes when he gets them, he’s never going to drive or set up a teammate and he has no post-up game, so you are putting him in a difficult role

Will Riley can drive, shoot, post up smaller players, set up teammates, the hole offense can be more fluid- Will will make more mistakes and we have to live with that but everyone else on offense will be better with Will on the court as a threat. And starting him gets him in the flow early and he knows he’s getting his minutes- so he can be more aggressive and less timid- it’s a win for everyone

We were all right and Brad was wrong for a couple of months now- I’m glad he sees it before it’s too late
 
#188      
When Boswell and White play like that, we are a formidable team. There's still time to salvage the regular season. Two games left, both against ranked,teams, but it's not much of a stretch to see us winning both and closing out with 20 wins ahead of the BTT. I don't remember the name of that elite guard Purdue has, but I'd like to see Boswell in his shirt all night long. Get really physical with him, but that's something Kylan can do.

but hopefully not in his cylinder
 
#189      
Good question, but also you can't take away too much from soundly beating a weak team. Iowa is in the bottom of the conference, and they are without their best player. Being without that best player led directly to some of the ease by which Tomi was able to score.

You take your win and are happy about it. But saying all is well, we've fixed the problems is a stretch.
Don't disagree but you know the old saying about if's and but's...we were also missing Morez.
 
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#191      
Loved seeing how Kylan played on defense. I am definitely a Humrichous downer, but coming off the bench for a couple 3's a game and less than15 min/game seems like a perfect role for him, really glad he was able to hit a couple.
And he even got some steals. Hope this role and useage continues...
 
#192      
Did I misunderstand last night? Did they actually call a couple of moving picks? I haven't seen those called all year.

The other thing, the in the cylinder call against KJ, I thought was a bad call. All year we've had people with their hands on us and riding us with no calls. And they call that?
 
#193      
Ill say it. I'll take what hummer gave us tonight. 6 minutes, 6 points (2-2 shooting), and 3 rebounds.

Regular minutes he averages 32 ppg and 16 rpg!
I liked the usage. Similar to Luke the last couple of years. Get him in for short bursts. Maybe hit 1 or 2 open threes. Get a rebound or two. Timing it with the opposing teams players on the court so they can't initially exploit his D and it taking a couple mins to adjust to a primary 3 point shooter, depending who he subs in for. In this role, his mins would increase over time but not as predictable as other substitutions timing and for starters to get a blow.
 
#194      
The problem is it took this staff until yesterday to figure out the glaringly obvious fact that BH is not a 30 mpg wing at the B1G level, and the kid sitting on your bench is going to the NBA.

If it was a snake it would have moved into their houses, started a family and demanded a different family member for breakfast every morning. FFS
 
#195      
Many of you don't understand that you have to shoot the three to open up the lane. The threes that were shot tonight were mostly good shots as the ball went out to the shooters after the ball went into the paint.

Quite honestly we had some really good looks and needed to make more of those looks. For this team to do any kind of damage going forward they need to start making those shots.
You cannot win in today's game without making some 3's. I would agree that, with a couple of exceptions, the shot selection was much better last night. Take away the two desperation heaves at the end of each half and the Illini were 9-for-27 or 33%, which equals 50% of 2-point shots in terms of points. Still under what the Illini shoot on 2's, but not terrible. Last night, it looked more like a team that wanted to attack the rim and then would take open 3's as opposed to a team that was hunting 3's and reluctantly would accept a layup. I know the opponent had something to do with it, but I'm hoping it also is a late-but-welcome change in the mindset.
 
#198      
So happy to hear this and so is Brad. Player engagement. If a coach has to tell you what to do for four months, that's not good. This is player leadership that we've been lacking from the jump. Not surprising that it was an upper classmen. Freshmen have a tendency to just fall in line, which is what attributes to struggles. Growing someone's physical talents is one thing. Growing their mental abilities is something different. It's hard to teach pride and a burning competitiveness. Hoping the Duke game was a clear reinforcement of BU's season long message.
 
#199      
Yeah I agree with pretty much all of that. He did have 3 steals in 14 minutes of play, so overall didn't think the defense was 'bad' per se. I expect a 5'11 dart like Harding to smoke a 6'9 guy off the dribble so its not like I was searching for a CoHawk-like ability to stay in front when he ends up in that situation.

I think if you continue to see him play well off of the bench like this, it is just further confirmation that he was in over his head playing 30-35 minutes for this team, and this is the kind of role he can have on this team and actually help it succeed.
Which is exactly what the previous poster said - we have actual data for Ben's extended minutes, and it's not great - and you felt that was overly mean.

Ben played very well in his limited minutes yesterday, hats off to him.
 
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