At the same age I think Leron handles it better. His stats so far are a little better than Draymond's JR year. I think Leron is quite a bit more athletic of the two as well. If he was 2" taller he could get into a lottery discussion at some point with his play.
Illinois 85, IUPUI 77 POSTGAME
At the same age I think Leron handles it better. His stats so far are a little better than Draymond's JR year. I think Leron is quite a bit more athletic of the two as well. If he was 2" taller he could get into a lottery discussion at some point with his play.
Nope, we really don't have much athleticism, especially quickness. All that pumping iron we did over the summer probably didn't help that either. But you can still play good man defense without it, we just don't help well, especially on screens.
Agreed Hill (the senior) is better than Black ( the sophomore) this year but
- it is not "comical" comparison.
- Black (the sophomore) looks better than Hill (when he was a sophomore)
- Hill is certainly the better offensive player and probably always will be, but Black will likely be a better all around player and pro prospect.
I hope they can go up against each other in the nba in a few years!!!
Obviously that was stressful but at least we won. Teams like this are beating or at least hanging in with really good teams this year so I think we all need to keep that in mind. It was good to win a close one, especially being behind fairly late in the game. Just keep winning games! In march if we win enough. We won't care how it looked! This time last year our season was over. We are in some trouble but we still can have a great season
An ugly win, is still a win. Glad they didn't give in tonight.
I don't expect our bigs to get better on defense (except Black). They are not athletic enough and don't have the foot work. Maybe we go small with Leron and Kipper up front. I am just saying at times.
bredhartmann
- Centralia, IL
The comparison was between the players this year, who will be a better pro prospect is an entirely different argument. Hill dominates in every statistic besides averaging a single less rebound, to me that makes the comparison comical. I hope Leron keeps forcing the argument, however.
Pretty sure Malcolm and Leron are the same age. Malcolm just turned 21 and Leron will turn 21 in January. This is technically Leron's junior year anyways.
Such a curious team...great defense poor offense against VCU. Good offense and terrible defense tonight. Happy we got the win!
Wow. Good point.
Yeah, air drag and extra weight are probably slowing him down a lot.
Can't teach speed and quickness, but you can teach position defense
Middle tiered teams generally smaller and quicker, we can't do quick
BirdDog9048
The Chief Lives
- Chicago, IL
I think he more than made up for a single missed free throw with the 5 or 6 clutch shots he made in the actual final minutes of the game.
Illini1221
Peru,IL
It was a big steal, but ya I agree. Tate has not been good. I'm okay with him getting a couple minutes to give Abrams or Lucas a breather, but not at the end of games. Abrams should run the point right now at the end of games, maybe later in the year, Lucas.
I am pretty sure it is only because we were winning and in a situation where they were likely to foul. Yes, Jaylon did miss the front end of a one and one, but he is one of the best FT shooters on the team. Additionally, he is quick and not terrible at staying in front of guards. If we were desperately looking for baskets, I would agree that he should not be on the floor, but I think Groce used him correctly.
Honestly, Tate had nothing to do with the end of the game being so close. Our defense was lackluster and we gave up way too many rebounds. Both of those are on everyone out there on the floor.
I realize that there were some issues tonight with our defense and overall play but I wonder if anyone else feels like I do, that some of these smaller school teams look really good at times. For a while there these guys were making shots like crazy. A couple of weeks ago I watched Fort Wayne beat Indiana who were ranked number 3 in the country at the time. It didn't look like a fluke. Fort Wayne looked really good that night, throughout the entire game! If you didn't see the name on the jerseys I would have to say that IUPUI looked better tonight than VCU did on Saturday. I get concerned about our ability to consistently play at a top notch level, but I do believe that these small schools, on certain nights are better than expected. Just an observation.