Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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I don't know. The sentence fragment near the end is kind of embarrassing. At least a third of my post count on this site has been me mocking Beckman for exactly those kinds of mistakes. But it's also possible that they actually didn't want the letter to be too slick and well written. It's pretty easy to spot when the text has been poured over and punched up by the pros over in marketing. This letter, for all its awkwardness and flaws, seems like it was written (or at least dictated) by an actual football coach. That could have been what they intended. S&C's version, while technically superior, is written in the voice of someone with six figures worth of outstanding student loans, not a guy who wears sweatsuits to work.

Exactly. Know your audience. Every trial lawyer worth his salt knows how to alter is verbiage to the Jury he is presented with.

It's a text speak world and for better or worse the old rules don't apply

I think you are giving someone too much credit...the Josh Newman in bold, with no Dear makes it scream impersonal form letter, surely you don't think that is what they are shooting to achieve.
 
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illinidarrin

from parts unknown
Looks like some of the crystal ball predictions are trending up for Illinois. Oladipo 67% for Illinois. Awodiran 83% for Illinois. That has changed since yesterday.
 
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BigStan97

Cincinnati OH
Looks like some of the crystal ball predictions are trending up for Illinois. Oladipo 67% for Illinois. Awodiran 83% for Illinois. That has changed since yesterday.


To land both of those wouldn't be a huge (national level) statement but. It would be a huge step in the redefining of this program that Whitman Lovie and Co. are looking to do.

would be awesome to land two very good ball players at DL and LB now along with getting that verbal from DB Collier.
 
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To land both of those wouldn't be a huge (national level) statement but. It would be a huge step in the redefining of this program that Whitman Lovie and Co. are looking to do.

would be awesome to land two very good ball players at DL and LB now along with getting that verbal from DB Collier.

It would be a fairly substantial statement to the rest of the B1G (at least the West) though, as I think you were hinting in your comment. I would be encouraged if we landed either of them, but both would really get me excited for the direction this class is headed in.
 
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Joel Goodson

dawgville
It would be a fairly substantial statement to the rest of the B1G (at least the West) though, as I think you were hinting in your comment. I would be encouraged if we landed either of them, but both would really get me excited for the direction this class is headed in.

I'll do you one better. It'll be a big statement that we're going to be a program to be reckoned with. The days of MAC-level talent, mixed in with some sleepers, are over.
 
#981      
To land both of those wouldn't be a huge (national level) statement but. It would be a huge step in the redefining of this program that Whitman Lovie and Co. are looking to do.

would be awesome to land two very good ball players at DL and LB now along with getting that verbal from DB Collier.

Good players, yes, but both Oladipo and Awodiran are in-state guys, which I think is significant. There's never been a real excuse why Illinois isn't at least in the conversation for a good portion of the state's top 50 players. There's only one other P5 team in the state, for crying out loud, an elite private school that fills about 35,000 seats per game in a good year, so it's not like we're dealing with some kind of Big-Brother-up-the-street syndrome. We just haven't given these guys enough reason to stay home and represent. We have to change that ... have to.
 
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Joel Goodson

dawgville
Good players, yes, but both Oladipo and Awodiran are in-state guys, which I think is significant. There's never been a real excuse why Illinois isn't at least in the conversation for a good portion of the state's top 50 players. There's only one other P5 team in the state, for crying out loud, an elite private school that fills about 35,000 seats per game in a good year, so it's not like we're dealing with some kind of Big-Brother-up-the-street syndrome. We just haven't given these guys enough reason to stay home and represent. We have to change that ... have to.

Yes, we do. And landing guys like Olidapo and Awodiran is precisely how you flip the game.
 
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S&C's version, while technically superior, is written in the voice of someone with six figures worth of outstanding student loans, not a guy who wears sweatsuits to work.

Five figures ;)

I guess the question is, when you read that does it make you say "that represents Illinois at its best?"

My answer to that would be no. Now that we have Lovie, I don't think the quality of the product in the linebackers film room is going to be below par, and I don't think the expectations should be anything less for any other aspect of the program either. That takes time, staff, and attention.
 
#984      
Looks like some of the crystal ball predictions are trending up for Illinois. Oladipo 67% for Illinois. Awodiran 83% for Illinois. That has changed since yesterday.

possibly a very nice change for Awodiran as the guy that flipped his pick to Illinois was a Blue Devil Insider (changed his pick to ILL on 8/1)
 
#985      
I have watched tape on about 90 guys now and know there is a whole lot more to view, but something are starting become obvious.
On defense there has been an uptick in the quality of the recruits offered. Nothing staggering to draw am OMG. Nice none the less and those interested in us is has been a more serious uptick. Now before everybody goes well yah duh. I have taken a wait an see attitude the staffs recruiting. To many quality g
guys that liked us are slipping through the net. Yet there are enough to fill the cupboard with mid to high 3 star players. d-line and and dbs are what jump out.
A collection of d-line could be top 3 in the Big ten
Nt C May, Nt B Tufele, Nt H watkins
3tech C Smith, J Mitchell, C Bethley
De O O, O Carney, they average a 6.59 or high 3 star. May a 4* C Smith and O O or sitting on the edge of 4 star to me.:cool::D
 
#986      
As for the db's
Cb's D Mcfalle, E Blades, A Collier no worse than a mid-high 3* for Collier. By the way Collier and Mc Falle could play safety, in Collier case I would try him first as a press corner
Then Ss J Newman, D Brooks ( no lb unless he put s on a couple 3 inches because I am not buying at even 5"10.
Fs N Culpepper, T Cotton, J Treadwell all of who might be able to play cb. They don't grade as high but have the ingredients you look for in db's so definite improvement.
As a group they average a 6.11 or a mid 3*. K Smith and T Adams not the unlike what we have been getting, the upgrade starts with Collier for the commits.:eek::hand:
 
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Joel Goodson

dawgville
I have watched tape on about 90 guys now and know there is a whole lot more to view, but something are starting become obvious.
On defense there has been an uptick in the quality of the recruits offered. Nothing staggering to draw am OMG. Nice none the less and those interested in us is has been a more serious uptick. Now before everybody goes well yah duh. I have taken a wait an see attitude the staffs recruiting. To many quality g
guys that liked us are slipping through the net. Yet there are enough to fill the cupboard with mid to high 3 star players. d-line and and dbs are what jump out.
A collection of d-line could be top 3 in the Big ten
Nt C May, Nt B Tufele, Nt H watkins
3tech C Smith, J Mitchell, C Bethley
De O O, O Carney, they average a 6.59 or high 3 star. May a 4* C Smith and O O or sitting on the edge of 4 star to me.:cool::D

Thank you for the time you put into rating these kids and for sharing your insights with the community.
 
#995      
Don't get your hopes up. 5 star, IMG, every offer he wants = not the ILL unfortunately. I wish he would though lol

It's a possibility. To counter those points he's also from Illinois and a big time legacy recruit. If that helps. Really going to depend on how the team does. Just how good Lovie has the defense playing and do we have a chance at top tier bowls while he would be here.
 
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If we could somehow pull that off, that would set things up nicely for our future. He would be our Benn all over again.

A bellwether recruit would be very nice at this point. Probably a little closer to a Juice Williams who was an instate recruit who legitimized Zook's efforts.

Benn was just an other worldly top 30 Out of State recruit.
 
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