Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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CUWPC

Geneva, IL
I'm not feeling good about Thomas right now either. All the CB's lately have been to Miami.

I think the ESTL pipeline has disappeared this time around. Call it grades, lack of interest, or better offer. Illinois will always struggle at ESTL in my opinion.
 
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FT35

Naperville
He's a 5th year transfer that could end up here.
 
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Sign him up imo. Don't say no to NFL caliber talent. Staff has more time for next year's class anyways as they have had time to recruit those kids.
 
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I'm not feeling good about Thomas right now either. All the CB's lately have been to Miami.

Crystal Balls mean next to nothing. They were 100% Kendrick Green to Iowa. They were also 100% Flynn Nagel to Illinois. Fantastic marketing does not mean fantastic information.
 
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Heck of a class

Illinois will finish strong and have their best class in a decade. Thomas was always a long shot because of huge academic concerns, Estes the same. You move on from those real quick, they should get Knight. Expect some last minute surprises. Exciting times for Football....enjoy the process.
 
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Crystal Balls mean next to nothing. They were 100% Kendrick Green to Iowa. They were also 100% Flynn Nagel to Illinois. Fantastic marketing does not mean fantastic information.

I feel like this is the perfect explanation of what I think about the Crystal Ball marketing ploy.

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What's going on with ESL and Illini right now. Something seems a miss with the tweets that they been putting out. I don't know how to post tweets on here but it seems something is going on.
 
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Illinois will finish strong and have their best class in a decade. Thomas was always a long shot because of huge academic concerns, Estes the same. You move on from those real quick, they should get Knight. Expect some last minute surprises. Exciting times for Football....enjoy the process.

I'm confused about Knight. ESL twitter has me confused right now on him
 
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brapp33

Normal IL
Is LTT a thing or what is going on here? The last 2 days we have had a lot of talk about him.

He has told me personally he wants to play here because it is close to home. But he has not heard back from the administration. He has tried to contact them and the staff.
 
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@wardth09 @GarrickMcGee is James Knight offer legit?

Certain schools like to play games with kids. We won't allow it. Good luck!

-ESL tweets

Good god that school needs to get purged.
 
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Hate to lose Fedd-Jackson, as others said, just means we have to lock up Palczewski. I'm pretty surprised he hasn't added more offers late, honestly.

I don't think anyone will be getting Estes next year. Can someone provide a link to whatever is being referred to about James Knight? Interested in whatever is going on there but haven't seen it myself.

Lastly, I like the idea of adding LTT late to fill a ride, but not over adding freshmen prospects.
 
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Hate to lose Fedd-Jackson, as others said, just means we have to lock up Palczewski. I'm pretty surprised he hasn't added more offers late, honestly.

I don't think anyone will be getting Estes next year. Can someone provide a link to whatever is being referred to about James Knight? Interested in whatever is going on there but haven't seen it myself.

Lastly, I like the idea of adding LTT late to fill a ride, but not over adding freshmen prospects.

I can't do that sorry but if you have twitter search @football_flyers
 
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FT35

Naperville
So he'd be using the grad transfer rule again? Didn't think you could do that twice?

I believe it is called a "Graduate Transfer Waiver":

http://www.athleticscholarships.net/ncaa-transfer-exceptions.htm

The graduate transfer waiver is now typically used by athletes who have previous transferred once before and so cannot use the one-time transfer exception (even as a graduate student).

A letter from the previous school saying it does not object to the student-athlete being eligible;

Documentation that the student-athlete has been accepted into a specific graduate degree program;

Documentation about whether that degree program is offered by the previous school;

A student-athlete statement including the reasons for the transfer; and
A statement from the previous institution about the student-athlete’s status on the team.

Generally the heart of the waiver is the three middle bullets. The NCAA wants to see that the student-athlete transferred in order to continue his or her academic career by pursuing a graduate degree not offered at the previous school.
 
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A lot of smoke about Estes and Minnesota right now as well. We are starting to strikeout now after all the momentum we had. Lets hope we don't lose Epstein and a few others that teams are coming after now. We need to hold on to what we have and just hope we get lucky with a few higher ranked prospects.

Who have we struck out on besides JFJ?
 
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I believe it is called a "Graduate Transfer Waiver":

http://www.athleticscholarships.net/ncaa-transfer-exceptions.htm

Yeah, not sure if that's really it. Very confusing about who can use that one vs the other version. And does he have to get a degree from Akron first? Or just find another grad program at Illiinois that is not offered there? Also that link is outdated as it still has exceptions based on family hardships, which are no longer allowed. Probably a moot point since I doubt we get him.
 
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FT35

Naperville
Yeah, not sure if that's really it. Very confusing about who can use that one vs the other version. And does he have to get a degree from Akron first? Or just find another grad program at Illiinois that is not offered there? Also that link is outdated as it still has exceptions based on family hardships, which are no longer allowed. Probably a moot point since I doubt we get him.

Did you even read what the criteria for a Graduate Transfer Waiver is? A degree from Akron would not be needed in this situation.

This biggest hurdle would appear to be the school (Akron) allowing him to transfer and apparently that has already happened.

He's already transferred once so the Graduate Transfer Waiver is what is applicable here:

http://www.athleticscholarships.net...exception-vs-the-graduate-transfer-waiver.htm
 
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Did you even read what the criteria for a Graduate Transfer Waiver is? A degree from Akron would not be needed in this situation.

This biggest hurdle would appear to be the school (Akron) allowing him to transfer and apparently that has already happened.

He's already transferred once so the Graduate Transfer Waiver is what is applicable here:

http://www.athleticscholarships.net...exception-vs-the-graduate-transfer-waiver.htm

Yes, of course I read it. I've read this one and several other articles about the process. What is confusing is the beginnings of this whole thing:

The graduate transfer exception builds off of the one-time transfer exception, the rule most often used by athletes in non-revenue sports to be eligible immediately after transferring.

This is supposed to be a "one time" exception or waiver, whichever one is being used. As a football player, he can't use the one time exception that is allow to non revenue sport athletes but can use it as a grad student. Now it seems he's trying to use it a second time, which goes against the initial statement that it's a one time deal.

It seems like he's going ahead with it, so maybe that's my answer.
 
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FT35

Naperville
Yes, of course I read it. I've read this one and several other articles about the process. What is confusing is the beginnings of this whole thing:



This is supposed to be a "one time" exception or waiver, whichever one is being used. As a football player, he can't use the one time exception that is allow to non revenue sport athletes but can use it as a grad student. Now it seems he's trying to use it a second time, which goes against the initial statement that it's a one time deal.

It seems like he's going ahead with it, so maybe that's my answer.

He's not eligible for the one time exception which is why the waiver is applicable here:

http://www.athleticscholarships.net...exception-vs-the-graduate-transfer-waiver.htm

Despite the creation of the graduate transfer exception, the waiver lives on. It is now primarily used by athletes who have already transferred once, and thus are not eligible for the one-time transfer exception. The waivers are reviewed by the NCAA staff. If they are denied by the staff, they are appealed to the Division I Subcommittee on Legislative Relief.

These are the requirements for a graduate transfer waiver:

The athlete’s former school does not object to the waiver;

The athlete is enrolled in a graduate program not offered at the previous institution.

The school submits documentation that these requirements are met, along with a statement from the student-athlete. Generally any waiver that meets the requirements is granted. There is not reason to show “compelling mitigation” or anything quite so fuzzy.
 
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