Joel Goodson
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6' 2" DB out of FL (2024):
VIP article ($), but VG news. Another big target:
Seems like a pretty big concern with the staff as it is now constructed. Not at all tapped into the recruiting scene, but it seems that the departure of our guys to Purdue and the ensuing staff changes has put a pretty significant dent in our ability to get guys to commit this year. Hopefully that changes soon.This is a big one. Not a lot of traction with top in-state targets, so here's one that would be great to make an impression on
Seems like a pretty big concern with the staff as it is now constructed. Not at all tapped into the recruiting scene, but it seems that the departure of our guys to Purdue and the ensuing staff changes has put a pretty significant dent in our ability to get guys to commit this year. Hopefully that changes soon.
Seems like a pretty big concern with the staff as it is now constructed. Not at all tapped into the recruiting scene, but it seems that the departure of our guys to Purdue and the ensuing staff changes has put a pretty significant dent in our ability to get guys to commit this year. Hopefully that changes soon.
I'm not sure it's so much that extreme, rather the perceived lack of any positive trend in recruiting. If we can't gain recruiting momentum after last year.... then I'm not sure we ever will. I'm not asking for all top Illinois recruits to come to Illinois or stacking our recruits with all 4- and 5-star players, but I am certainly concerned with recruting right now.It's been 2 seasons since Lovie's absolutely deflating COVID season fiasco coming off of a bowl appearance, and people think we are going to build an orange curtain around the state of Illinois.
As I said, I'm not tapped into recruiting, but there is at at the least a little evidence.I don't see any evidence that supports that theory.
As I said, I'm not tapped into recruiting, but there is at at the least a little evidence.
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Agree, much to be encouraged by as far as targets and visits!Way too early to be concerned, IMO. Last year we were stuck on 1 recruit (Feagin) for quite awhile.
FWLIW, I'm encouraged by our targets and the percentage that appear to have serious interest.
There couldn’t be better representatives, ambassadors, and advocates for Illinois Football! I hope all the recruits were watching!
Seems like a pretty big concern with the staff as it is now constructed. Not at all tapped into the recruiting scene, but it seems that the departure of our guys to Purdue and the ensuing staff changes has put a pretty significant dent in our ability to get guys to commit this year. Hopefully that changes soon.
It's been 2 seasons since Lovie's absolutely deflating COVID season fiasco coming off of a bowl appearance, and people think we are going to build an orange curtain around the state of Illinois.
Opposite points being made here but not sure either fits. It's still extremely early but the trends show Illinois won't be as involved, competitive, or secure commitments for in-state top-10/15 recruits as they did in 2022 + 2023. Could easily brush those concerns of with ABI, schools, recruits getting blue-chip offers, isolated to the '24 class, but it's not great. You have to hope for some late bloomers (TBD), bigger success outside the state (early signs are good), and hitting on the few, top targets that are interested (TBD).
I don't think the specific number of staff heading to Purdue is a factor. Is there a single recruit in the Chicago area that was really excited about Illinois but now isn't after staff changes? Haven't seen it. This seems like an issue that became apparent to the staff near the end of last fall.
No one is expecting an orange curtain around the state. BB seems to be making great, lasting connections to the state. It's (hopefully) repairing old wounds created by past staffs and program football struggles. That said, this renewed push by Bielema needs to have a pay-off. There isn't a hard line but you can make a compelling argument that annually getting a handful of the top-15 in-state prospects is necessary for what the athletic department, football, and the staff are committing through branding, social media, $$, and time within the state. For example, getting Lightfoot, Tuerk, Alexander, & Dupree wouldn't qualify as locking down the state, not even close, but it shows the investment in the state is paying off. Also likely requires a "proof of concept" scenario where these higher regarded in-state prospects develop, succeed at Illinois, and then get drafted, before the Illinois staff is allowed to shop in the Justin Scott aisle of prospect quality.
More than 2 in a class? pre-staff shakeup ZookTop 15 ish kids are the target, for sure. Outside of really local kids, when was the last time we had success with Top ~15 targets?
Top 15 ish kids are the target, for sure. Outside of really local kids, when was the last time we had success with Top ~15 targets?
The 2023 class. One was local (Feagin) but the two others are stretched across the state (Elzy - Simeon + Henderson - ESTL). You also had a down-to-the-wire shot at Jyaire Hill (Kankakee), which would have given Illinois two of the top four ranked recruits in the state. Even peak Zook recruiting years didn't achieve that.
Understandably, Illinois has advantages when it comes to recruits very close to campus. But this staff has shown that they can recruit top-15/national-400 recruits across the state the past two years. The on-field success, and the '23 recruiting success, shows that top-15 is still the target but you need to secure some of them to call it a success.
I just think I would give it another year before i really started to worry. The recruits will come.
I think the best way to help the recruiting part of the program is to remain positive about the program. They are coming into year 3 I believe after a better-than-expected run last year. Stay positive, move forward, BB knows what he is doing. Support the team and the staff.This might be a distinction without a difference: it's definitely not panic time. The staff has earned trust and a looooong runway based on the first two years. Plus, if they told me someone like Resetich is a top-15 in-state player, I'll believe them. That said, I'm sure they know the '24 in-state class isn't trending like the first two years. It's also okay to say that's disappointing after such a good 2022 season, thinking that would help push the program's recruiting success forward, even incrementally.