Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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illinistephen
TheGMan said:
The law states that they are allowed to get NIL money while in high school if they sign to an in state school. So the source of the money being out of state wouldn't really matter, in my understanding. It's a law incentivizing kids to sign to play in state.
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After reading the statute, I think my point is that there is no penalty defined for breaking this. So if a high school student signs with Alabama and starts collecting NIL money then what is the recourse and who is going to sue the student for damages and what is their standing? I just think that based on how strongly worded the Alston decision was against restraint of trade and given that it was a 9-0 decision, I don't think this will hold up in the courts if anyone challenges it for a lot of reasons.
 
#154      
StarterG
Simeon Rice said:
When they verbally commit, the students can sign a financial aid agreement (non-binding) and at that time can receive the NIL
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Missouri rules regarding eligibility:

10. Amateur and Awards Standards​

An athlete must maintain “amateur standing” 365 days a year in the sport concerned in order to participate in interscholastic athletics – the following restrictions govern the receipt of awards in both interscholastic play AND non-school competition/participation.

After entering a member school, you will become ineligible in the sport concerned if you receive any of the following PROHIBITED awards for participating in an athletic contest or being an athlete:

  • An award of cash, a gift-certificate/gift-card or an award that is the equivalent of cash is PROHIBITED for amateurs.
  • Merchandise which exceeds a manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP) of $250, per month, is PROHIBITED for amateurs. However, there is no value limit in regard to awards which are symbolic in nature, such as medals, ribbons, trophies, plaques, etc.
Awards should be approved in advance by your school.

Commemorative jewelry may be presented by the school (i.e. championship ring or necklace) (no value limit).

Question is if this makes the athlete ineligible when they take NIL money. If they commit and take NIL before senior season it appears that they would not be able to participate. Do they wait til after their final season?
 
#155      
illini80
StarterG said:
Missouri rules regarding eligibility:

10. Amateur and Awards Standards​

An athlete must maintain “amateur standing” 365 days a year in the sport concerned in order to participate in interscholastic athletics – the following restrictions govern the receipt of awards in both interscholastic play AND non-school competition/participation.

After entering a member school, you will become ineligible in the sport concerned if you receive any of the following PROHIBITED awards for participating in an athletic contest or being an athlete:

  • An award of cash, a gift-certificate/gift-card or an award that is the equivalent of cash is PROHIBITED for amateurs.
  • Merchandise which exceeds a manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP) of $250, per month, is PROHIBITED for amateurs. However, there is no value limit in regard to awards which are symbolic in nature, such as medals, ribbons, trophies, plaques, etc.
Awards should be approved in advance by your school.

Commemorative jewelry may be presented by the school (i.e. championship ring or necklace) (no value limit).

Question is if this makes the athlete ineligible when they take NIL money. If they commit and take NIL before senior season it appears that they would not be able to participate. Do they wait til after their final season?
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It seems doubtful this would hold up in court either if someone ever decides to challenge it. Which if other states follow Missouris lead, it eventually will probably happen. For example, kids in 4-H or FFA are allowed to make money on their activities, so why not NIL for football or basketball players?
 
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Illiniguy74
Simeon Rice said:
When they verbally commit, the students can sign a financial aid agreement (non-binding) and at that time can receive the NIL
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The long game here will go something like this. Kid gets NIL. Blows it or uses it for some nefarious purpose. Gets in trouble of one type or another. Blame is assigned to the university for not providing one on one financial guidance and/or life counseling.
 
#161      
Dkayak
Illiniguy74 said:
The long game here will go something like this. Kid gets NIL. Blows it or uses it for some nefarious purpose. Gets in trouble of one type or another. Blame is assigned to the university for not providing one on one financial guidance and/or life counseling.
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AKA parenting. My son made mistakes, as we all do at that age, but I'm pleased with the way he has turned out by age 39. The sad part is the potential future value of a windfall at age 18 —- IF managed carefully. It could be life-changing, but youth includes many lost opportunities. The goal is to minimize costly errors.

Give most college students a lot of money and expect it to be used wisely? Unlikely if left on their own. Big NIL money will often disappear like lotto money. Much will depend on the kid and his parenting (still hit and miss). In the end the kid is an adult and makes his own decisions. Even many pro athletes squander their surge in wealth, although others handle it quite conservatively and wisely. This is why wills aren’t written to leave big lump sums to young adults. A university could offer a graduated payout option like the lotto but very few would choose it.
 
#162      
BretMyBeachHouse
illinistephen said:
So it is legal for a high schooler to take NIL money in state as a high schooler, I get that. What I don't get is how it is illegal for that same person to take money from an out of state entity? If the next Michael Phelps, Simone Biles or Tara Lipinski is from Missouri and wins olympic gold as a high schooler, can they not get paid to be on the Wheaties Box or create endorsements? Or collect any NIL money and then go to an out of state college afterwards? What is the illegal act and who is punished for it?
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I made this point earlier when this first passed. There has never been anything illegal about a kid getting money. It's all about NCAA eligibility. If kids in Missouri can get NIL money and maintain eligibility than kids in Illinois can.

The Illinois law that purports to stop this has no criminal or civil penalties. Purely for show.
 
#163      
TentakilRex
Kida lat but Johnson-Cook's school Macarthur's game is on YouTube today

 
#164      
jimbo72
TentakilRex said:
Kida lat but Johnson-Cook's school Macarthur's game is on YouTube today

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Watched. He touched the ball only 2x in 3rd quarter in a 1 pt. game. While Mac tossed it up atleast 15x.. Metamora really big, deep, and great coaching.
I hope he stays away from IMG, had a player go there for Sophomore through Senior. He ended up in SEC, hated IMG.
He's a super talented young man. Will be interested to see if he ends up being 6.5 and 240lbs. Continued success to MJC!
 
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