Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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At what point does our defensive staff employ signal flares and hazard lights in the recruiting process to stress to recruits how desperate we are for CBs and defensive linemen?
 
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man, the whole narrative around the roster strategy was that we were going to build experienced depth by developing these 3 star guys over the course of a few years

if guys are leaving in these numbers and we're not over-signing to a Fleckian degree, how are we supposed to do that?

it could be that all of these guys did in fact leave because they weren't going to get the playing time they were looking for, but if that's just what it's like now then at some point the roster strategy needs to adapt. you can't roll redshirt seniors out on the line when they won't stay in the program that long
 
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Man, weren't these guys (Tobe and McCantos) Henry's recruits? Not looking good for the D coordinator here early in '24 after last year's disaster. BB gotta stop the bleeding at some point, no?

Edit: Tobe was a Walters recruit.....if he ends up at PU :mad: Josh might need to re-visit the Fball NIL fund
 
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Illini92and96

Austin, TX
Well 46-49 needs to be the floor. It would be nice to be in the top 25 once in a while. I think that's what it's going to take for us to be a top 25 ranked program year in and out.
I’m usually pretty forgiving of recruting expectations, but I’d say we should be top 40 at a minimum. That would be at the bottom of all the power 2 teams plus notre dame, FSU, Clemson, Miami.
 
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I’m usually pretty forgiving of recruting expectations, but I’d say we should be top 40 at a minimum. That would be at the bottom of all the power 2 teams plus notre dame, FSU, Clemson, Miami.

This is a good lens to look at it through. College football has evolved to a Power 2 conference playing field with a handful of others in the mix. Given the resources that affords, that really should be the floor. With NIL/portal, it is more difficult to be a developmental program, so you need to be able to recruit talent (either prep or portal) on the same level as most of your peers
 
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Has there been any reports on the status of Jordan Anderson's knee injury? Will he be available this season or sitting it out?I was so impressed watching him play for J.C.A.
 
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man, the whole narrative around the roster strategy was that we were going to build experienced depth by developing these 3 star guys over the course of a few years

if guys are leaving in these numbers and we're not over-signing to a Fleckian degree, how are we supposed to do that?

it could be that all of these guys did in fact leave because they weren't going to get the playing time they were looking for, but if that's just what it's like now then at some point the roster strategy needs to adapt. you can't roll redshirt seniors out on the line when they won't stay in the program that long
This is what the transfer portal has created, and you are seeing it in basketball as well. But in football, I think the idea of signing a high school recruit, redshirting him, and then developing him into an eventual 1 or 2 year starter as an upperclassman is going to become a thing of the past at the bigger schools. And unfortunately, even if you give a guy maximum playing time there is still no guarantee he sticks around. The players will decide for themselves what is best for them and I have no issue with that, but as a coaching staff you really can't trust anyone and need to ensure that you have a backup plan to the backup plan in place for every position. Thus the strategy needs shift with the primary focus being on maximizing returns from the portal.
 
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217sports

Springfield
We haven’t lost anything of note at this time except maybe Tobe and Johnson. Both of which weren’t starters. Everyone who is leaving is doing so because they were low on the depth chart.

Every other team experiences their exodus during fall, ours is happening during the spring. Most of these guys are being told to leave because we need scholarships.
 
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We haven’t lost anything of note at this time except maybe Tobe and Johnson. Both of which weren’t starters. Everyone who is leaving is doing so because they were low on the depth chart.

Every other team experiences their exodus during fall, ours is happening during the spring. Most of these guys are being told to leave because we need scholarships.

Perhaps, but if you are going to be a 'developmental' program and not land the blue-chip athletes, then you need recruits like Tobe, Mc-Cantos, Calvin Smith, Badie, etc. to stick around and develop. We've been told NIL is reserved for 'maintaining' top talent (Newton, Randolph, etc.), but if that type of player doesn't make it 3-4 years into their tenure to develop, is that really the right strategy? I guess we'll see, but we're fighting an uphill talent battle
 
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Is it just me or is the football program a mess this off season- We have a ton of players transferring out of the program and none coming in- I’m starting to doubt Bret Beliema
 
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This is a good lens to look at it through. College football has evolved to a Power 2 conference playing field with a handful of others in the mix. Given the resources that affords, that really should be the floor. With NIL/portal, it is more difficult to be a developmental program, so you need to be able to recruit talent (either prep or portal) on the same level as most of your peers
Speaking of, do we know where we sit with NIL right now? I recall hearing earlier this season that we had relatively big for us use it or lose it money for football this year. Hoping that can still make some difference in bringing in talent this season, especially on the defensive side of the ball. If not though, sadly, it does make me wonder where do we go from here and what options we really have. I just don't think in the new B10 we can have another 2009 or 2003 type season two years after having success. Just hard to dig ourselves out of that type of hole when the NIL can't aggressively compete...
 
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