Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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Tennessee 247 reported a couple days ago that Lopati intends to visit Tennessee at some point
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I loved Kenny as a kid specifically because he was a lefty.
But the "Great Lefty QB's " book is really like a pamphlet. Lots of reasons why, really.
Kinda like lefty catchers and infielders (not first basemen) in baseball.
 
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Here are 19 schools. Difficult to say we are a top 17 school. I think calling us an average P2 program is probably a more fair assessment.

Ohio St.
Penn St.
Michigan
Indiana
Oregon
Washington
USC
Iowa
Bama
Texas
Texas AM
LSU
Florida
Tennessee
Ole Miss
Georgia
Missouri
Vandy
Oklahoma
While fully acknowledging that W-L record is not the only metric, let me just note the following records over the past four seasons:

Illinois 31-19
TAMU 31-20
Florida 25-27
Vandy 24-27

I’d agree that ‘average P2’ is a fair description. And I’d say that puts Illinois comfortably within the Top 30 programs nationwide, which is fantastic given where we were pre-Bielema.
 
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Pulling from your list above...........

16. Iowa
17. Washington
18. Vanderbilt
19. Mizzou

I'd say Bret Bielema's 2025 brand of Illini football (in this new NCAA world) compares very favorably to those last 4 teams. So perhaps top half, and absolutely hovering in the area of "AVERAGE".
We haven’t had a better BT record than Iowa for like 15 consecutive years.

Washington KILLED us this year and just played for the National Championship.

Vandy is probably easily top 10 in the country in football investment right now.

Missouri has an extremely good program.

I don’t think the rest of the country thinks we have a better program than those schools. We have greatly improved but saying Illinois now has a better program than Iowa, Washington, Vandy and Missouri is a biased opinion.
 
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Lets hope we don't any more surprises with transfers.
 
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#686      
I loved Kenny as a kid specifically because he was a lefty.
But the "Great Lefty QB's " book is really like a pamphlet. Lots of reasons why, really.
Kinda like lefty catchers and infielders (not first basemen) in baseball.
Actually, I tend to agree. (I had to go back 50 years to find a good counterpoint.).
 
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We haven’t had a better BT record than Iowa for like 15 consecutive years.

Washington KILLED us this year and just played for the National Championship.

Vandy is probably easily top 10 in the country in football investment right now.
So this is just based on this season? Because outside of this season, what has Vandy done to show they are a better program overall than us? Absolutely nothing. How do we know any of this carries forward post Diego Pavia? All the money stuff is well and dandy but we really don't know how much money is going in, or if it will be used wisely. Certainly don't know enough to say it's a better program than what we have.

Missouri has an extremely good program.
Wake me up when Mizzou beats a winning team. Historically they've been no better than us, and if we're talking about this season, they had a 0-5 record against teams who ended the season with a winning record. Most overrated team in the country and it's not even close.

I don’t think the rest of the country thinks we have a better program than those schools. We have greatly improved but saying Illinois now has a better program than Iowa, Washington, Vandy and Missouri is a biased opinion.

Rest of the country also thinks the SEC is better than the B1G, but for the 2nd year in a row that narrative appears to be going up in smoke in the postseason. At this point the ACC and Big 12 look better than the SEC
 
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So this is just based on this season? Because outside of this season, what has Vandy done to show they are a better program overall than us? Absolutely nothing. How do we know any of this carries forward post Diego Pavia? All the money stuff is well and dandy but we really don't know how much money is going in, or if it will be used wisely. Certainly don't know enough to say it's a better program than what we have.


Wake me up when Mizzou beats a winning team. Historically they've been no better than us, and if we're talking about this season, they had a 0-5 record against teams who ended the season with a winning record. Most overrated team in the country and it's not even close.



Rest of the country also thinks the SEC is better than the B1G, but for the 2nd year in a row that narrative appears to be going up in smoke in the postseason. At this point the ACC and Big 12 look better than the SEC
Missouri was 26-5 in their previous 31 games when their QB got hurt this year.

Iowa and Washington and in the Big Ten. Under what metric is Illinois better than Iowa and Washington? It’s not on the field or wins and losses.
 
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Missouri was 26-5 in their previous 31 games when their QB got hurt this year.

Iowa and Washington and in the Big Ten. Under what metric is Illinois better than Iowa and Washington? It’s not on the field or wins and losses.
I didn't argue with Iowa and Washington.

We're a (barely) top half Big Ten program. The Big Ten is at least as good as the SEC. I think it's accurate to say we are a top-half P2 program, and I certainly don't think Mizzou and Vandy are standing in our way to making that claim.
 
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Mizzou with Drink probably hit their ceiling. He can recruit, but his in game management is very questionable. The bowl game proved that. Took over the offense play calling duties and many Mizzou fans in and around StL are disappointed in that result. Now he gives the reins to the ex Michigan OC?
Yikes.
 
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Here are 19 schools. Difficult to say we are a top 17 school. I think calling us an average P2 program is probably a more fair assessment.

Ohio St.
Penn St.
Michigan
Indiana
Oregon
Washington
USC
Iowa
Bama
Texas
Texas AM
LSU
Florida
Tennessee
Ole Miss
Georgia
Missouri
Vandy
Oklahoma
Vandy....LOL. FSU, Clemson, Miami, ASU, T-Tech, BYU, probably UNC aren't P2, but otherwise belong on the list.
 
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Re: Olano

In a few seconds he should have another game winner if they dont score a TD.
 
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