Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (April 2018)

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So Jeremy Werner brought up some of our SF misses when recapping the recent signings. Does anyone know how Tevian Jones compares to Landers Nolley and the others we were in on? Jones seems like such a win, it's hard to think of him as a plan B recruit.
 
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TownieMatt

CU Expat
Chicago
So Jeremy Werner brought up some of our SF misses when recapping the recent signings. Does anyone know how Tevian Jones compares to Landers Nolley and the others we were in on? Jones seems like such a win, it's hard to think of him as a plan B recruit.

Nolley and Jones have a lot of similarities. They're about the same size, about 6'6"/6'7" and good athletes. Nolley is a better shooter at this point, and is probably stronger.

In terms of other guys we pursued, THT is a little smaller at about 6'5" (although he's got a long wingspan), but has a really advanced skillset. His ability to handle the ball and pass are ahead of Nolley or Jones IMO. That being said, he probably isn't quite as good of an athlete, although THT is no slouch in that dept. His athleticism is underrated because he doesn't quite look the part yet (college weight training will do wonders for him).

Our other swing and miss was Zion Griffin. I'd rather have Jones. Griffin was an undersized big before developing more of a perimeter game this past year. Once he did, his stock rose. He's an athletic kid and early developer physically. Jones and Griffin are about the same height, but Jones is longer and a better shooter.
 
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Nolley and Jones have a lot of similarities. They're about the same size, about 6'6"/6'7" and good athletes. Nolley is a better shooter at this point, and is probably stronger.

In terms of other guys we pursued, THT is a little smaller at about 6'5" (although he's got a long wingspan), but has a really advanced skillset. His ability to handle the ball and pass are ahead of Nolley or Jones IMO. That being said, he probably isn't quite as good of an athlete, although THT is no slouch in that dept. His athleticism is underrated because he doesn't quite look the part yet (college weight training will do wonders for him).

Our other swing and miss was Zion Griffin. I'd rather have Jones. Griffin was an undersized big before developing more of a perimeter game this past year. Once he did, his stock rose. He's an athletic kid and early developer physically. Jones and Griffin are about the same height, but Jones is longer and a better shooter.

Thanks for the summary. Jones is such a high flyer, I'm looking forward to watching him in the future. And I'm trying to think of past Illini he resembles. Bertrand maybe, but Jones has a couple inches on him.
 
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Blake Hinson is an intriguing option. He is a better athlete than Calloo, but that is not saying much at this juncture; both have similar body types, while Hinson seems to get more out of what he has than Calloo.

Up until a few months ago, Blake Hinson was listed almost universally on the internet as 6'5" and a SG. He also looks very much 6'5". The 6'7" that's now being pushed everywhere is ... surely due to a recent growth spurt?
 
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ChazzReinhold

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Free Okoro article.
Weird quote.

https://247sports.com/college/oregon/Bolt/Francis-Okoro-Oregon-basketball-recruiting-117202471

"Now back at home, Okoro said Illinois and Purdue are trying to make in-home visits with him. "It is kind of just what it is. They asked to come and make an in-home visit. It'll be good, but it's just that, I guess. Nothing too big."

Sounds like a compilation of answers from 3 different questions, which would not surprise me as I have been misquoted in a newspaper before.
 
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Or just trying to get some nibbles from a P5. I think he must be wearing some platforms, harkening back to the days of disco (I was not yet born) because he wants a school that will take him dancing in March.

All of listed heights have a 1 SD of ~2". They cannot be called out for 1 SD, but if they were 2 SD, and this 4" shorter than their actual height, someone's got some 'splaining to do.
NCAA doesnt have height measurement specifications that I am aware of. Platform shoes and afros can easily add 4". I think TF is actually closer to 6'5" with flexible measuring methodology applied.
 
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Or just trying to get some nibbles from a P5. I think he must be wearing some platforms, harkening back to the days of disco (I was not yet born) because he wants a school that will take him dancing in March.

All of listed heights have a 1 SD of ~2". They cannot be called out for 1 SD, but if they were 2 SD, and this 4" shorter than their actual height, someone's got some 'splaining to do.

I like him. He's a bull. But he seems to play below the rim mostly. Calloo is much longer and I think plays (or at least shows the ability to play) above the rim more than Hinson. I'd really like to see them standing next to each other to observe the height difference.

And I agree with everyone that Golden and Okoro are much better options than either Calloo and Hinson.
 
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Tevo

Wilmette, IL
He's not Crandall Head, but he's got a low, slow release that is going to spell trouble against major conference college defense.

He needs to take and make wide open shots. And he's capable of doing that. Build from there.

...compared to what Tevian shows, with a nice quick release, kind of like Trent. Tevian doesn't have a high release, but if he elevates and is quick, the lower release is okay. If you're lower, slower, and don't elevate on your jumper, things don't go well.
 
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QUESTION
If we come out of this weekend without Golden committing to Syracuse, what would you, IllinoisLoyalty, want us to do with the open scholarship (assuming we can do any of the following):
1. Pursue Golden and snag the commit
2. Pursue Hinson and snag the commit
3. Pursue Calloo and snag the commit
4. Carry over the scholarship to use next year

I still like Hinson better than Golden. I know we're ostensibly looking for a 4, and Hinson is more perimeter oriented, but when you're piling a million freshmen onto the team, just go get the best players.
 
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Boeheim is 73, two years removed from NCAA sanctions and the school already announced a 2018 retirement date that was pulled back.

If Golden is going to commit there prior to visiting Illinois, then so be it -- but you gotta wonder what the thought process would be there?
 
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NBB1979

UIUCFAN1
Springfield, IL
QUESTION
If we come out of this weekend without Golden committing to Syracuse, what would you, IllinoisLoyalty, want us to do with the open scholarship (assuming we can do any of the following):
1. Pursue Golden and snag the commit
2. Pursue Hinson and snag the commit
3. Pursue Calloo and snag the commit
4. Carry over the scholarship to use next year

What about 5. Pursue Okoro in hopes of a reclassification to 18 and snag the commit? I'll take that one
 
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Not really getting my hopes up for Okoro committing to us but you never know. Just hope he doesn't go to Purdue .
 
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Boeheim is 73, two years removed from NCAA sanctions and the school already announced a 2018 retirement date that was pulled back.

If Golden is going to commit there prior to visiting Illinois, then so be it -- but you gotta wonder what the thought process would be there?

1. Geography (easier for parents to see him play)
2. He has said he wants to play in the ACC

At Syracuse he would come off the bench for Brissett and Dolezaj, according to their basketball beat writer.

From the Illini perspective, I know Underwood and the other coaches really like this kid, and have made a strong push to get him to visit. They got Ayo on him, and even Underwood's daughter followed him on Twitter.

We'll see if we get a visit.
 
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Boeheim is 73, two years removed from NCAA sanctions and the school already announced a 2018 retirement date that was pulled back.

If Golden is going to commit there prior to visiting Illinois, then so be it -- but you gotta wonder what the thought process would be there?

NCAA Tournament Wins Since 2009:

Syracuse - 19
Illinois - 1

Who are we kidding?

What we have to sell Golden is early playing time and a very, very different system that you could argue fits him better than what Syracuse does.
 
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NCAA Tournament Wins Since 2009:

Syracuse - 19
Illinois - 1

Who are we kidding?

What we have to sell Golden is early playing time and a very, very different system that you could argue fits him better than what Syracuse does.

And an opportunity to play against Maryland.
 
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