Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (April 2018)

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I believe Damonte is going to work a lot on his shooting this summer and with two healthy legs he is going to be vastly improved.
I think D'amonte's overall game is impressive. He has natural instincts most kids don't possess. He will get steals and sneak inside for rebounds regularly. His shooting form is much better than his dad's and Frank was great when it mattered. It is reasonable to believe his outside shooting can be improved.
 
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t7nich

Central IL
I think D'amonte's overall game is impressive. He has natural instincts most kids don't possess. He will get steals and sneak inside for rebounds regularly. His shooting form is much better than his dad's and Frank was great when it mattered. It is reasonable to believe his outside shooting can be improved.

Agree. It’s reasonable to think that he could be our best defender next year
 
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This is just pure nonsense

He was shooting below 10% for the year from 3 going into the last few games.

But keep trying to convince everyone he’s a shooter in the making....

Doesn’t mean he can’t/won’t be a good player despite outside shooting. His defense was very good for a freshman. Very good rebounder for his size.

He didn’t show an offensive skill set last year though so he will need to develop. I don’t think that’s going to come via outside shooting though. He has the length and natural athleticism to be a good drive and finish guy.
 
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I think D'amonte's overall game is impressive. He has natural instincts most kids don't possess. He will get steals and sneak inside for rebounds regularly. His shooting form is much better than his dad's and Frank was great when it mattered. It is reasonable to believe his outside shooting can be improved.

He showed some knack for hustle plays but his decision making was attrocious. He had one of the highest turnover rates on the team and likely cost us at least one game via turnovers in the final minutes.
 
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BananaShampoo

Captain 'Paign
Phoenix, AZ
Jimmy Butler, Carl Landry, Jae Crowder, Pierre Jackson, Trevor Mbakwe (Minnesota), and Cleanthony Earl are a few JUCO players that had an impact.
Ken Norman. Went to Wabash Valley CC before he was an Illini. Drafted in first round of the NBA draft after a nice college career.
 
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He is far better now and moving forward than TeJon, sorry, I know it was only a comparision....that said I agree he will not be a major 3 pt contributor unless he really gets up practice shots. He will however, be our most valuable all everything...he has that game and with better health and the instincts he already has, well that only improves.:chief:

Te'Jon doesn't have the physical traits and upside of Da'Monte but he is the better player based on what they've done in college to date. There isn't one measure that would place Da'Monte over Te'Jon other than pure observation based opinion. I hope and expect Da'Monte to be the better player when its all said and done though. If DW can replicate what Te'Jon gave us last year, that would be a huge step in the right direction.
 
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Illwinsagain

Cary, IL
Te'Jon doesn't have the physical traits and upside of Da'Monte but he is the better player based on what they've done in college to date. There isn't one measure that would place Da'Monte over Te'Jon other than pure observation based opinion. I hope and expect Da'Monte to be the better player when its all said and done though. If DW can replicate what Te'Jon gave us last year, that would be a huge step in the right direction.

I realize that I may be a DW kool-aid drinker, but I expect him to have more of a Sergio path than Te'Jon path. Classic glue guy, do everything, etc.
 
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He was shooting below 10% for the year from 3 going into the last few games.

But keep trying to convince everyone he’s a shooter in the making....

Doesn’t mean he can’t/won’t be a good player despite outside shooting. His defense was very good for a freshman. Very good rebounder for his size.

He didn’t show an offensive skill set last year though so he will need to develop. I don’t think that’s going to come via outside shooting though. He has the length and natural athleticism to be a good drive and finish guy.

I'm confused.. You saying it's unlikely that a freshman player that shot 23% from 3 most likely won't shoot 30% at any point in his college career?

Did you know that Jaylon Tate shot 4% from 3 and increased his shooting percentage to 18% in his senior season? He's shooting 28% now in the league in Canada.. but let's give up on Damonte improving his shooting by 7% even after coming back from a leg injury :thumb:
 
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I'm confused.. You saying it's unlikely that a freshman player that shot 23% from 3 most likely won't shoot 30% at any point in his college career?

Did you know that Jaylon Tate shot 4% from 3 and increased his shooting percentage to 18% in his senior season? He's shooting 28% now in the league in Canada.. but let's give up on Damonte improving his shooting by 7% even after coming back from a leg injury :thumb:

I said it’s highly unlikely he becomes better than a career 30% 3pt shooter as an Illini. To get to that number he’ll have to improve his shooting each year. I’m not sure what argument you’re trying to make. 40% is the line for a good outside shooter. It’s also unlikely he ever shoots 40% for a season IMO.
 
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I said it’s highly unlikely he becomes better than a career 30% 3pt shooter as an Illini. To get to that number he’ll have to improve his shooting each year. I’m not sure what argument you’re trying to make. 40% is the line for a good outside shooter. It’s also unlikely he ever shoots 40% for a season IMO.

Just seems odd that you were cherry picking when he shot bad and ignored the actual percentage. Frazier's shooting percentage was also bad if we ignore the times he shot well. I don't think anyone is saying he's going to be a 40% but shooting in the low to mid 30s is definitely possible despite saying that it's statistically not likely.. whatever that means.
 
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The Ramey/Feliz situation will be interesting to see play out, but Hinson is the recruit that really excites me the most. Usually when I hear that a recruit is a football player, my mind immediately goes to "tough, physical player but probably struggles with his shot and ball handling". However with Hinson, his shot and ball handling seem to also be strengths. And considering that some of the Illini's biggest needs are size and toughness, plus considering how much BU likes skilled players, I think he'll be a great fit and thrive in this system should he choose to come to Illinois.

+1
 
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Foggy Notion

San Francisco
I said it’s highly unlikely he becomes better than a career 30% 3pt shooter as an Illini. To get to that number he’ll have to improve his shooting each year. I’m not sure what argument you’re trying to make. 40% is the line for a good outside shooter. It’s also unlikely he ever shoots 40% for a season IMO.

40% from three is better than good.
 
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Wrong thread my dudes.

The Okoro to Purdue smoke is really puzzling considering it's happening around the same time that he's on a visit to Oregon and there is more talk of him reclassifying.

OTOH, a kick to the nuts wouldn't hurt as bad in the Spring instead of November. Would give the staff plenty of time to go hard after some other top talent.
 
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How about our very own Kenny Battle?? I'll take a redo:chief::chief::cool:

I guess you could say NIU is a Junior College.

We don't have any very recent experience with JuCos. Here is a fairly complete list:

  • Mike Washington 1974
  • Nate Williams 1974
  • Reno Gray 1977
  • Craig Tucker 1980
  • Ken Norman 1983
  • P.J. Bowman 1988
  • Rodney Jones 1989
  • Andy Kpedi 1989
  • Shelly Clark 1993
  • Halim Abdullah 1996
  • Arias Davis 1997
  • Fess Hawkins 1998
  • Cleotis Brown 1998
  • Marcus Griffin 1999
  • Blandon Ferguson 2001
  • Rodney Alexander 2007
  • Dominique Keller 2008
 
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Wrong thread my dudes.

The Okoro to Purdue smoke is really puzzling considering it's happening around the same time that he's on a visit to Oregon and there is more talk of him reclassifying.

OTOH, a kick to the nuts wouldn't hurt as bad in the Spring instead of November. Would give the staff plenty of time to go hard after some other top talent.

Purdue needs just as much help in the frontcourt next year, but you would have to think that he's a little worried about how thin their backcourt is. Still, Purdue has a lot to sell. Okoro has worried me since he doesn't seem to have a true emotional attachment to the area.
 
#797      
I guess you could say NIU is a Junior College.

You could say that if you wanted to sound like an idiot :p

I've never heard of a Junior College playing in the Orange Bowl.

Also, as someone who taught at NIU for 12 years, and taught many students who transferred to NIU from Junior Colleges, there is a big difference.

I know you were just trying to be funny, but I still wanted to set you straight :)
 
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Kramer116

Chicago
in terms of instant playing time, Purdue just does not make much sense considering they have Haarms and Evan Bordeaux to man the 4/5 positions the next few seasons at least.
 
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We're not done yet, but at this moment you'd have to put our class slightly behind last year's IMO.

DaMonte Williams does not get enough hype around here. If he learns to shoot at all that's a real building block.

You could argue the pieces fit better in this class though. Kane and Jones particularly.

I don't agree at all. Based on projections Ayo = MS, Griffin= TF, Jones> DW, Kane > Ebo, and GBez> Matic. We don't know actual until end of the year but I don't think it is close. Ceiling is huge for this class IMO because it covers all the positions and believe rating are much higher.
 
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