Illinithad
- Northeast Missouri
If you get one, the other two are most likely out of the running, but if you can get all three to commit and agree to play together...that's where legends are made.
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (July-August 2016)
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If you get one, the other two are most likely out of the running, but if you can get all three to commit and agree to play together...that's where legends are made.
Sometimes they do it out of respect for the staffs that have put so much time into them. It's a subtle way of saying I appreciate you, but it's not going to work out.
Re: Scruggs and Wilkes. I say go for them! We have a very solid class already. Hopefully we get Frazier and a big in the fold, and it looks like the staff is still dedicating resources to both endeavors. I think we are in a perfect position to swing for a home run. If we miss, so what, we still have a very solid class. Where I think Groce has gotten in trouble in the past is swinging for the home run without pursuing a plan B. However, I don't see any targets we "need" that we would miss out on by pursuing these 2. And although we face some stiff competition, IU, Xavier, UCONN etc. are not Kentucky and UNC. So long as we don't lose focus of getting a PG and a Big, I see no harm in trying to hit a home run with scholarship #6 and rolling it over to 2018 if we miss.
Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
Im saying Wilkes to U of I not happening he does like UCLA but hes staying home...Scruggs loves U of I and i think it will come down to us and Xavier...Frazier i think will be ours....There is a dark horse in on Tillmon even though he verballed there is a little bird in his ear and hes listening is what i have been told...Also dont be suprised if we end up getting Nojel Eastern from what im told MSU is recruiting over him and hes upset about that...
Mike
C-U Townie
What slime is in on Tilmon? He's a verbaled recruit.
BananaShampoo
Captain 'Paign
- Phoenix, AZ
Dude hasn't posted in two years and has a total of 13 posts and we were supposed to remember? :thumb:
I will give him that he did seem to call Elijah Thomas going to TAM and Jawun going to OK State. Hope the part about Scruggs/Eastern/Frazier is right and Tilmon is wrong. :tsk:
Illinithad
- Northeast Missouri
I would guess Ford.
I have nothing to base this on, but if it's happening, that would be my guess.
ILLINIFAN2
- Des Moines, IA
Let me guess who the birdie is, Ford/Goodwin.... Now, if Tilmon was still in ESL I might be a bit worried but since he is at La Lu that puts me more in the "comfort" zone that we aren't being "backdoored"
Wouldn't necessarily be "backdoored" coming from Goodwin. Would just be two friends/players talkin about hoopin together.
ILLINIFAN2
- Des Moines, IA
Where is Jimmy Collins when you need him, somebody needs to throw the new Blazer keys at Tilmon to lock in his commitment... Just a little Tuesday morning humor...
Just a little Tuesday morning humor...I don't think it's going to happen, but if Tilmon decommits and goes to SLU and then we're spurned by Wilkes (IU/UCLA), Scruggs (XU), Eastern (MSU), Kigab (Oregon), and Kiir (UL/NC St), it's going to complete the process of crushing my will and spirit. It will fit right into the Livingston/Eric Gordon/Cliff/Snyder/Elijah Thomas/Evans/Brunson/Goodwin narrative arc. Add in the situations with Jamar Smith/Carlwell, Jereme Richmond, Cosby, Darius Paul, and the plague of injuries the last two years and it's just been sad and very hard to remain emotionally invested.
It feels like a critical moment for the program: keep Tilmon in the fold, add some combination of Frazier, Scruggs, Eastern, Wilkes, Kigab, Justin Smith, Kiir, and Uyaelunmo, make the tournament this year, and it's looking like UI is back on track. Lose Tilmon, end up with a class that looks something like DMW, Pickett, Frazier, Epperson, a 5th year, and an open ride, and it's likely we sink into the abyss completely. It kind of all hinges on Tilmon sticking to his commitment. I don't like the recent rumblings.
It feels like a critical moment for the program: keep Tilmon in the fold, add some combination of Frazier, Scruggs, Eastern, Wilkes, Kigab, Justin Smith, Kiir, and Uyaelunmo, make the tournament this year, and it's looking like UI is back on track. Lose Tilmon, end up with a class that looks something like DMW, Pickett, Frazier, Epperson, a 5th year, and an open ride, and it's likely we sink into the abyss completely. It kind of all hinges on Tilmon sticking to his commitment. I don't like the recent rumblings.
Well.....Tilmon is headed back to ESL, so let the speculation begin
Only way Ford can make JGood a NBA PG is for Tilmon to help Ford out in making JGod look like a NBA PG. Provided the NBA buys that.
So it's happening after all. Hmm...
Yep, height has little to do with it. It is the ability and skill-set to play the position. I have always claimed that Groce's biggest problem has been positional recruiting, rather than overall level of recruiting. That is, if Groce had been able to get the SAME level recruiting at key positions (e.g., PG and C), our team's success would had been different.
People love to bring up the Golden State Warriors as example of flexibility, but the truth is that the talent level required is a lot higher than we currently have on this team. Talent can mask a lot of positional gaps. Our own Flyin' Illini were a team that also thrived on flexibility, but that team had A LOT more talent than what we currently have. Worlds apart.
With the current level of talent, we have enough problems getting players to become consistent at their natural position (e.g., DJW at SF), let alone them becoming very consistent and effective at multiple positions, especially positions that they may not have (at least yet) the skills for. We can also solve problems by significantly elevating the talent level on the team, getting great talent with the flexibility to handle multiple positions. The fallacy, however, is that we can turn average overall talent to multi-dimensional effective players. Chances of that happening are simply not good.
PS. On Villanova, don't confuse talent with depth. Nova had limited depth but really great talent, including positional talent. They had the luxury to have two exceptional PGs who could play together (Arcidiacono/Brunson), great play at SG/SF (Hart), and C (Ochefu). Sure, they had an undersized PF who may never be considered a pro prospect at that position but was really a PF in HS/AAU (watched him multiple times). The equivalent would be us solving all positional needs with very good talent and discussing whether Roger Powell can play PF...
This is Schrodinger's high school season.
ILLINIFAN2
- Des Moines, IA
For the purpose of seeing his family or to visit with the "Dark Side"?
Although Elijah Thomas followed every Illinois fan on twitter and the staff and still went to Texas A$M.
I didn't say SLU, I said ESL, East St Louis, for high school
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