Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (March 2021)

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Alright, gosh darn it, I'm gonna just say it, I didn't want it to come to this but here it goes, I REALLY want TyTy to come to the University of Illinois and play basketball at a high level. I promise to cheer you on and promote your greatness. Who's with me😊
 
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Glad Nunge is transferring, but I sure as hell hope he doesn't transfer in conference (IU or otherwise).
 
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Is the G League open to anyone? I assume you have to get invited/signed. Is Tyty really that caliber of player? Never really considered him as a 1 and done type.
 
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It's the NCAA that is the key investigator (loose description of the word) and they've been investigating Kansas for the last 17 years or since Self's arrival. I think the FBI is done with their investigation.
The NCAA referred the Kansas case to the "Independent Accountability Resolution Process". I believe the IARP is supposed to start its review of Self's program sometime this summer.
 
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I don't like our chances of trying to outbid the G League, let alone Kansas.
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Doesn't Kansas have the FBI investigating their program?
It's not like they or the NCAA will do anything to them. They are big time revenue for national tv, NCAA, and apparel. It's kind of like the drug industry...they "want to stop it" but the amount of money coming in is too good.
 
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The NCAA referred the Kansas case to the "Independent Accountability Resolution Process". I believe the IARP is supposed to start its review of Self's program sometime this summer.
I’m glad they’re getting right on it. Such a farce
 
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I can see Rich I can also see DJ Richardson whereas some see Brandon Paul..

We'll see.
I agree on the DJ Richardson comparison except not as good of a shooter. I don't see Brandon Paul comparison. My memory is Paul had ability to finish at the rim. I don't see that ability from Miller. Some kids are ball players like Feliz or curbelo for example. Some aren't. Hope I'm wrong!
 
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Wait. You guys are talking about Adam Miller as if he is DJ Richardson. Ok . lol. I love DJ, great alumni. But Adam Miller has more basketball skills today than DJ as a Sr. All day everyday. If anyone is hating on Miller's game, I am shocked at their lack of recognition of him taking the role he needed to on last year's team. He became a lockdown defender... AS A FRESH. He also is a very good 3 pt shooter and he has the body of Brandon Paul as a Sr. Adam Miller will go down a greater Illini than DJ, although that is no slight to DJ in the least. I see Adam as Ken Nunn but with an Ayo like professional mentality. Kid is a pro, will be a pro. Thank god he is going to do that here.
 
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I agree on the DJ Richardson comparison except not as good of a shooter. I don't see Brandon Paul comparison. My memory is Paul had ability to finish at the rim. I don't see that ability from Miller. Some kids are ball players like Feliz or curbelo for example. Some aren't. Hope I'm wrong!

DJ Richardson's 3 point percentage got worse every single year. DJ shot 32% from 3 his senior year. We'll see where Miller ends up but I doubt it's as low a that.

Miller also showed the ability to get to the basket when his role allowed him to do so. That wasn't his role for most of this year but that doesn't mean he can't do it.
 
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DJ Richardson's 3 point percentage got worse every single year. DJ shot 32% from 3 his senior year. We'll see where Miller ends up but I doubt it's as low a that.

Miller also showed the ability to get to the basket when his role allowed him to do so. That wasn't his role for most of this year but that doesn't mean he can't do it.
Really don’t understand lack of appreciation of defense. Much more impressed by Ace’s defensive abilities than any lack of scoring consistency. He will score next year according to his role.
 
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Tyty clearly looking for the best financial deal for him. He is evaluating the G League strongly. And as I mentioned, Kansas appears to be the collegiate leader.
Not saying you're wrong, but if that is the case why did he choose Creighton first? Has his stock gone up that much, or does Creighton play the game better than we do?
 
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Some kids are ball players like Feliz or curbelo for example. Some aren't.
Lol. Saying this about the guy who was our second leading scorer in the game with the brightest lights this season -- one of the few that showed up to play that day. With all due respect, I am going to relish seeing the doubters on here eat these words over the next couple years.
 
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Wait. You guys are talking about Adam Miller as if he is DJ Richardson. Ok . lol. I love DJ, great alumni. But Adam Miller has more basketball skills today than DJ as a Sr. All day everyday. If anyone is hating on Miller's game, I am shocked at their lack of recognition of him taking the role he needed to on last year's team. He became a lockdown defender... AS A FRESH. He also is a very good 3 pt shooter and he has the body of Brandon Paul as a Sr. Adam Miller will go down a greater Illini than DJ, although that is no slight to DJ in the least. I see Adam as Ken Nunn but with an Ayo like professional mentality. Kid is a pro, will be a pro. Thank god he is going to do that here.
THANK YOU. He was the only one doing stuff against Loyola. He really started figuring out how to attack the rim at the end of the year. And he’s waaaay more athletic and creative doing so than these awful comparisons. He was getting reffed defensively really poorly all year but is really good at perimeter defense. Rarely misses a rotation, great in help scenarios, great around screens.

Kid is for f***ing real. He’s been good in team USA camps. He is a different level and he’s going to explode next year. Not sure how many people saying this stuff actually watch the games.
 
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Not saying you're wrong, but if that is the case why did he choose Creighton first? Has his stock gone up that much, or does Creighton play the game better than we do?
These 2021 recruits have been at a huge disadvantage due to no AAU season and some no HS season. The one league that is nationally recognized is The Grind Session and it is elite to elite competition. Tyty ended up being the star and MVP of their season. BTW, Melendez was right up in the mix too. Tyty went from a #60's/70's recruit in December to now knocking on the door of top 25. That's a huge move in 3 months. Secondly, he got a new guy in his handler circles (enough said). Finally Tyty chose not to come to Illinois because there was too much guard competition (it looked good back then that Burnett might happen). Hope this helps. Go Illini
 
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These 2021 recruits have been at a huge disadvantage due to no AAU season and some no HS season. The one league that is nationally recognized is The Grind Session and it is elite to elite competition. Tyty ended up being the star and MVP of their season. BTW, Melendez was right up in the mix too. Tyty went from a #60's/70's recruit in December to now knocking on the door of top 25. That's a huge move in 3 months. Secondly, he got a new guy in his handler circles (enough said). Finally Tyty chose not to come to Illinois because there was too much guard competition (it looked good back then that Burnett might happen). Hope this helps. Go Illini
Very helpful - thank you!

I still would love to see Burnett happen, but I can't believe we now have to worry about not beating Bama out for hoops recruits.

Regardless, it's great to have UI hoops back in the national picture again.
 
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These 2021 recruits have been at a huge disadvantage due to no AAU season and some no HS season. The one league that is nationally recognized is The Grind Session and it is elite to elite competition. Tyty ended up being the star and MVP of their season. BTW, Melendez was right up in the mix too. Tyty went from a #60's/70's recruit in December to now knocking on the door of top 25. That's a huge move in 3 months. Secondly, he got a new guy in his handler circles (enough said). Finally Tyty chose not to come to Illinois because there was too much guard competition (it looked good back then that Burnett might happen). Hope this helps. Go Illini
Very interesting re: Tyty's new handler. That makes things a little dicier for Illinois, I would think. Between that and the recent Burnett news (leaning Bama), I'm curious for thoughts/odds on these recruits and transfers if anyone knows anything:

- Brandin Podziemski (seems like good news coming)
- Wesley Cardet (haven't heard much lately)
- Tre Mitchell (supposedly wants to play the 4, so Kofi coming back would help)
- Armaan Franklin (seemed quite positive early when he announced his transfer)
- Parker Stewart (rumors that he's also interested but might have interest at a number of schools)

I'm sure I'm missing a lot of players, but I thought I'd try to write down a few we're keeping an eye on.
 
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I agree on the DJ Richardson comparison except not as good of a shooter. I don't see Brandon Paul comparison. My memory is Paul had ability to finish at the rim. I don't see that ability from Miller. Some kids are ball players like Feliz or curbelo for example. Some aren't. Hope I'm wrong!
As others have noted y'all are seriously underrating Miller's skills. As a frosh he was better than DJ was as a senior. He's two years ahead of where Ayo was as an outside shooter and as a defender. We saw flashes of ability to get his own shot; if he can develop that he will be an All Big 10 player +
 
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As others have noted y'all are seriously underrating Miller's skills. As a frosh he was better than DJ was as a senior. He's two years ahead of where Ayo was as an outside shooter and as a defender. We saw flashes of ability to get his own shot; if he can develop that he will be an All Big 10 player +
Miller may be ahead of where DJ was as a senior (maybe), but DJ was the Big Ten Freshman of the Year. DJs freshman year stats were, without a doubt, better than Miller's. More PT, higher usage rate, higher efficiency, more blocks, same steal rate. Minor edge to Miller in rebound rate, but that's pretty much it. Richardson did not develop in the way everyone hoped, but his freshman year was excellent by any measure.
 
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DJ Richardson's 3 point percentage got worse every single year. DJ shot 32% from 3 his senior year. We'll see where Miller ends up but I doubt it's as low a that.

Miller also showed the ability to get to the basket when his role allowed him to do so. That wasn't his role for most of this year but that doesn't mean he can't do it.
Miller knew his role and filled it spectacularly this year. Imagine any player putting up the numbers he did the first two games this year and then tailed off to single digit scoring the remainder of the season. Anyone else would have blamed the coaching staff and entered the transfer portal immediately. Much respect for Ace. Speaks strongly to his character. We would be lucky to have him for 4 years but I imagine he will be going pro in 3 years
 
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Very interesting re: Tyty's new handler. That makes things a little dicier for Illinois, I would think. Between that and the recent Burnett news (leaning Bama), I'm curious for thoughts/odds on these recruits and transfers if anyone knows anything:

- Brandin Podziemski (seems like good news coming)
- Wesley Cardet (haven't heard much lately)
- Tre Mitchell (supposedly wants to play the 4, so Kofi coming back would help)
- Armaan Franklin (seemed quite positive early when he announced his transfer)
- Parker Stewart (rumors that he's also interested but might have interest at a number of schools)

I'm sure I'm missing a lot of players, but I thought I'd try to write down a few we're keeping an eye on.
Any word on Bohna?
 
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Miller may be ahead of where DJ was as a senior (maybe), but DJ was the Big Ten Freshman of the Year. DJs freshman year stats were, without a doubt, better than Miller's. More PT, higher usage rate, higher efficiency, more blocks, same steal rate. Minor edge to Miller in rebound rate, but that's pretty much it. Richardson did not develop in the way everyone hoped, but his freshman year was excellent by any measure.
Don't ya think the fact that DJ was on a team that couldn't qualify for the NCAA tourney, while AM was on a team ranked as a #1 seed, would have anything to do with this?? This isn't to take away from DJ, but man, you can't just look at numbers on a stat sheet and draw irrefutable conclusions from them. And even if you wanted to, when you control for PT, their per 40 numbers are almost identical, albeit with lower offensive efficiency but substantially better defense from AM.

Can we all just give AM until at least halfway through his soph year before doubting his potential to live up to his ranking? The last guy we had with an RSCI of 29 averaged 2ppg his freshman year. The year after? Lottery pick. (not saying that is going to happen here, just that patience is warranted)
 
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