Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (September 2017)

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I know Underwood stressed for the fan base not to be concerned with rankings, because he does not put much stock in them for his system. However, are people actually very excited about the possibility getting a player currently ranked 210?
 
#177      
I know Underwood stressed for the fan base not to be concerned with rankings, because he does not put much stock in them for his system. However, are people actually very excited about the possibility getting a player currently ranked 210?

Conditt can play inside and out in this system. Bulk him up and increase his explosion and you're looking at a potential monster mismatch. If he maxes his potential(big if obviously), how do you guard him? A big? He'll use his guard skills on the perimeter to exploit the matchup. A guard? Let's cut conditt into the post and let him work. Some major hypotheticals in there no doubt, but not hard to see how he can work for us.
 
#178      
Conditt can play inside and out in this system. Bulk him up and increase his explosion and you're looking at a potential monster mismatch. If he maxes his potential(big if obviously), how do you guard him? A big? He'll use his guard skills on the perimeter to exploit the matchup. A guard? Let's cut conditt into the post and let him work. Some major hypotheticals in there no doubt, but not hard to see how he can work for us.

Alright, I'm sold. Nice job.:thumb:
 
#179      
Ayo...Decision could come soon....:)

Nolley...Seems to want to get decision over quickly after visits...:)

Conditt is down to three and seems to be speaking to others, decision soon? :)

I would say this is the class with an addition of Sow if possible for oversigning!!
 
#180      
This just doesn't look like a recently turned 17 year old boy!!
 

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#181      

Blackhawks215

Savannah, GA
The purpose of mentioning that 9 weeks is left before signing day is not about urgency or anxiety or confused puppy dogs (although I loved that pic). It was only intended to provide a context for people on the site who may not follow the timeline as closely as some of us do--there are 9 weeks left to signing day, effective tomorrow--that was the only point. However, as a general principle, I would never be in favor of removing BS from any discussions involving sports.

As far as BU needing to pull the class together over that period--that's also a fact. The underlying interest for me is to observe how he does it. Do you go hard for Nolley, hoping he can bring Ayo? Do you tell Castleton you're holding a spot for two weeks, then it's first come, first serve? Do you wait on Ayo and THT to make plans or do you take the initiative and leverage visits in a strategic way? It's now a game of chess involving players, parents, countering moves of other coaches, coordinating visits, planning in-home presentations, and on and on.

This is techincally correct but it's 9 weeks until the Fall signing period.

There are numerous players that wait and commit/sign in the Spring as well. I don't think anyone wants to see an entire recruiting class built in the Spring but a class does not have to be completed in the Fall. Pick up a few guys then fill the last spot or two in the Spring if there's some recruits around that fit a need.
 
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Smacko

Lexington, KY
The thing with Conditt is that he has some time to bulk up before he gets on campus. Get Fletch to design a program for him and if he really works in the gym over the next year he could definitely step on campus with a body that is more big ten ready. He has said he knows he needs to work in the weight room, so it's just a matter of getting a good plan (which Fletch can do) and then executing. Some people seem to be hesitant about Conditt, but it's not like we are fighting off mid-majors for him. He got a ton of offers this summer for a reason.
 
#183      
The thing with Conditt is that he has some time to bulk up before he gets on campus. Get Fletch to design a program for him and if he really works in the gym over the next year he could definitely step on campus with a body that is more big ten ready. He has said he knows he needs to work in the weight room, so it's just a matter of getting a good plan (which Fletch can do) and then executing. Some people seem to be hesitant about Conditt, but it's not like we are fighting off mid-majors for him. He got a ton of offers this summer for a reason.

His P5 offers are clearly not indicative of his #210 ranking.
Also, saw last night that Addaya Moore Freshman women's BB player is recruiting the heck out of Nolley on Twitter. She's from Granite City. Hey it worked for Trent.:D
 
#185      
The thing with Conditt is that he has some time to bulk up before he gets on campus. Get Fletch to design a program for him and if he really works in the gym over the next year he could definitely step on campus with a body that is more big ten ready. He has said he knows he needs to work in the weight room, so it's just a matter of getting a good plan (which Fletch can do) and then executing. Some people seem to be hesitant about Conditt, but it's not like we are fighting off mid-majors for him. He got a ton of offers this summer for a reason.


Is he allowed to do that before he officially joins the team? Legitimate question.
 
#186      

Blackhawks215

Savannah, GA
Yeah, pay for transportation, lodging, and food. http://www.ncaa.org/student-athletes/resources/recruiting-calendars

If you are Ayo and debating your last official between USC and Illinois, USC is paying for that trip every time.

He's scheduled two officials so he's not deciding between those schools you mentioned for one last paid visit. He realistically may not need an OV here but some of this rationalization is going sideways a little bit.

Fact of the matter is:
1. He hasn't scheduled an OV to either of the past perceived top schools.
2. Either he wants to see some newer contenders first to get a read on everything then will explore visits to Xavier and here. Or he's truly moved his school priorities and no recruiting analysts have picked up/reported on it.

The one thing that concerns me is his comment that if he finds the right school, he'll commit then. With that comment, it's almost a negative towards Xavier and Illinois as he's very familiar with both and has visited each a few times.

But there's nothing that can be done right now, either he eventually visits (or commits) or he doesn't. Without more info on his mindset with these two visits, it's hard to really gauge what's going on.
 
#187      

IlliniDent

Chicago, IL
Is he allowed to do that before he officially joins the team? Legitimate question.

I'd be shocked if it isn't. There is no way that these guys aren't put on a weight training program to get ready for day 1 of practice.
 
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Smacko

Lexington, KY
Is he allowed to do that before he officially joins the team? Legitimate question.

Staffs often tell kids what types of things they want them to work on and give them drills to do. I don't see any reason why giving them advice on diet and a weightroom plan would be any different.
 
#190      
He's scheduled two officials so he's not deciding between those schools you mentioned for one last paid visit. He realistically may not need an OV here but some of this rationalization is going sideways a little bit.

Fact of the matter is:
1. He hasn't scheduled an OV to either of the past perceived top schools.
2. Either he wants to see some newer contenders first to get a read on everything then will explore visits to Xavier and here. Or he's truly moved his school priorities and no recruiting analysts have picked up/reported on it.

The one thing that concerns me is his comment that if he finds the right school, he'll commit then. With that comment, it's almost a negative towards Xavier and Illinois as he's very familiar with both and has visited each a few times.

But there's nothing that can be done right now, either he eventually visits (or commits) or he doesn't. Without more info on his mindset with these two visits, it's hard to really gauge what's going on.


It was a hypothetical to highlite that the differences between an official and unofficial are paying for transportation, lodging, and food. There are no other differences, unlike what the other post implied.

Fretting that local kids haven't scheduled official visits is silly. There is zero reason for them to do so unless they have already decided that they will not take their full five.
 
#191      
I'd be shocked if it isn't. There is no way that these guys aren't put on a weight training program to get ready for day 1 of practice.

Staffs often tell kids what types of things they want them to work on and give them drills to do. I don't see any reason why giving them advice on diet and a weightroom plan would be any different.

Fair enough. I was just curious since the NCAA has a bunch of weird rules.
 
#194      
Is he allowed to do that before he officially joins the team? Legitimate question.

He won't actually have a ton of time to do an exercise program before he would officially become "ours." By that I mean the timetable. By the time he signs an LOI, his high school season will start shortly after and not a lot of weight work happens in season. Once that season ends, March probably, he has a couple/three months until he joins the team in June, assuming he signs here. So while a lot can happen in those three months or so, I am guessing Fletch would want him working on some general things until he can fully work out under the supervision of the strength coach/program.

To answer the original question, from what I recall, they cannot give anything official until they enroll.
 
#196      

Joel Goodson

dawgville
Need to seal the deal with Conditt on his OV, can't wait for Castelton. Staff should be able to get it done.

This.

I am hearing great things regarding Nolley. He was chatting on twitter last night with a WBB player that he met on his OV.
https://twitter.com/AddayaMoore/status/905235084579569664
https://twitter.com/thatbooych3z/status/905246994276462593
https://twitter.com/AddayaMoore/status/905237583948640256

Fingers crossed!
 
#197      
looooooool, forget the great visit, the expertise of the staff, and the detailed development plans that Underwood appears to pitch to each recruit.

We just need to get our recruits meeting the right girls to really get them interested in attending. Worked for Trent, right?
 
#198      

BananaShampoo

Captain 'Paign
Phoenix, AZ
Wowzers!!! Said womens Bball player is a total smoke show. All of a sudden I want to watch some Illini womens bball:). Can we say Skylar Diggins??? If the media gets wind of this girl I can totally see her social media status rise.

Was thinking the same thing. I mean, daaaayummm. (*goes back and hides after realizing old enough to be her dad)
 
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