Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Dan

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Welcome to the Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread :illinois:

2022 Illini Recruiting
Sencire Harris (2022 G) committed on July 3rd, 2021.
Jayden Epps (2022 G) committed on July 13th, 2021.
 
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illini80

Forgottonia
After the disappointing last 2 weeks, we need some fresh names to get excited about. Who are our top targets now?
 
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BMoreIllini

Baltimore, MD
Updated scholarship grid.

After the disappointing last 2 weeks, we need some fresh names to get excited about. Who are our top targets now?
I have to think we're all in on AJ Casey now. I don't know that we're close on signing anyone at Corhen's position (C) in the near future, but that can always change quickly. I'm disappointed with how things look on targets we thought we were likely to land (Corhen, Oweh, and to a lesser degree, Whitmore), but I'm sure the staff will make some good moves in the coming weeks. If we don't find a big to replace Kofi in this recruiting cycle, I'm sure we'll have a good chance to land a solid transfer in the offseason.
 
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Kofi has some Big Shoes to fill, there has to be some over confident 17 year old big out there ready to take on the challenge. I too think the 5 is our biggest need for the future, and was liking Corhen a lot.
 
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Updated scholarship grid.


I have to think we're all in on AJ Casey now. I don't know that we're close on signing anyone at Corhen's position (C) in the near future, but that can always change quickly. I'm disappointed with how things look on targets we thought we were likely to land (Corhen, Oweh, and to a lesser degree, Whitmore), but I'm sure the staff will make some good moves in the coming weeks. If we don't find a big to replace Kofi in this recruiting cycle, I'm sure we'll have a good chance to land a solid transfer in the offseason.
With Payne and Hawk we will still have two solid bigs for next year and possibles in BBV and Lieb. Doesn’t feel as critical as this year when we thought we were losing Kofi and Giorgi.
 
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Tbh, I think our best recruiting strategy at this point is to make Kofi an NIL millionaire in the hopes he comes back for his senior season.
I'd bet my fiancés parent's beach house that he'll be back. Hard to improve your stock that much between your junior and senior year and even if he makes 500k this year that's more than he would make anywhere except for the NBA. Even if he's a projected late second round pick it might be a smart business move to stay in college to avoid missing out on a guaranteed contract
 
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I'd bet my fiancés parent's beach house that he'll be back. Hard to improve your stock that much between your junior and senior year and even if he makes 500k this year that's more than he would make anywhere except for the NBA. Even if he's a projected late second round pick it might be a smart business move to stay in college to avoid missing out on a guaranteed contract

Can he still go to the portal if he likes his NIL chances? Glad he returned, but he was a hot commodity this off-season, and if he returns, he'll be a hot commodity again.
 
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Retro62

North Bethesda, Maryland
Can he still go to the portal if he likes his NIL chances? Glad he returned, but he was a hot commodity this off-season, and if he returns, he'll be a hot commodity again.
I can only imagine that if he were to return due to what he made with NIL, that he would want to stay with the sure money. But who knows, at the end of the year, everybody else may know what he made and say "we can do better for you here."

If he comes back, I don't think it would be with anyone else...he's already an Illini Legend in the making, if not one already.
 
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We should expect NIL strategies to become more sophisticated very quickly. If I’m a wealthy booster, best believe I am pooling funds with my fellow boosters to buy up local businesses that can be used to funnel marketing dollars to NIL agreements, etc. Hope we can keep up.
 
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Cook

Richmond, VA
We should expect NIL strategies to become more sophisticated very quickly. If I’m a wealthy booster, best believe I am pooling funds with my fellow boosters to buy up local businesses that can be used to funnel marketing dollars to NIL agreements, etc. Hope we can keep up.
Particularly savvy if those local businesses directly benefit from on court/on field success. E.g. if we just started drawing full capacity for every bb and fb game, plenty of local businesses (hospitality, dining, retail) would reap the benefit and have increased interest and increased dollars to put toward sustaining it. Then it becomes a force multiplier for those who are capitalizing, while others chase.
 
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sacraig

The desert
We should expect NIL strategies to become more sophisticated very quickly. If I’m a wealthy booster, best believe I am pooling funds with my fellow boosters to buy up local businesses that can be used to funnel marketing dollars to NIL agreements, etc. Hope we can keep up.
Why would you need to buy up a local business when you could just create a new shell company for pennies on the dollar?
 
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All do respect to Corhen he’s not Pat Williams, Scottie Barnes or Devin Vassel or some of the others. I would argue Hamilton did more harm for Barnes and Williams than anything. I’m just not convinced he develops players but he will always have the high draft pick argument.
 
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All do respect to Corhen he’s not Pat Williams, Scottie Barnes or Devin Vassel or some of the others. I would argue Hamilton did more harm for Barnes and Williams than anything. I’m just not convinced he develops players but he will always have the high draft pick argument.
He did harm to 2 19 year olds that came off the bench and both got drafted 4th overall in consecutive years?

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He did harm to 2 19 year olds that came off the bench and both got drafted 4th overall in consecutive years?

Episode 5 Reaction GIF by The Office
Williams showed more in one game with the Bulls than he did at FSU. Everyone saw it as a shock he was drafted at 4 because he didn’t show those skills at FSU. Scouts were stunned by the individual workouts for both guys.
 
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Williams showed more in one game with the Bulls than he did at FSU. Everyone saw it as a shock he was drafted at 4 because he didn’t show those skills at FSU. Scouts were stunned by the individual workouts for both guys.
That's fair, then I guess it just depends on how you look at it. He brought in two freshmen and got they both got drafted in the top 5. If the argument is getting kids to the league then that's about as good a job as one could possibly do. If the argument is they weren't properly utilized at FSU, that's fine. Clearly he didn't do them harm but not utilizing them properly when the end result is getting drafted 4th overall
 
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All do respect to Corhen he’s not Pat Williams, Scottie Barnes or Devin Vassel or some of the others. I would argue Hamilton did more harm for Barnes and Williams than anything. I’m just not convinced he develops players but he will always have the high draft pick argument.
Vassell was the #200 recruit in his class per 247. Two years later pick #11 in NBA draft. On what basis do you think he wasn't developed at all in his two years at FSU?
 
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By your logic Tom Crean made Anthony Edwards the number 1 draft pick.
Lol Barnes is the closest to Edwards being that he was in the top 10 out of school (Edwards was #2, Barnes 7), Williams was ranked 26th and as others have noted Vassel was ranked 200th so that argument doesn't really work for me
 
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Lol Barnes is the closest to Edwards being that he was in the top 10 out of school (Edwards was #2, Barnes 7), Williams was ranked 26th and as others have noted Vassel was ranked 200th so that argument doesn't really work for me
Exactly. Don't think Hamilton is leaning on Barnes in recruiting guys like Corhen. Vassell is the real selling point here. By no means was he considered an NBA prospect before he came to FSU. Just look at this offer sheet:

 
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