This becomes the problem when trying to open up schollies for other players.
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I think people view individual players in a vacuum. Practice one he tripped over his own to feet, year two he scored 4 points in a game. Nice improvement. (Totally making up the tripping part btw). However, they don't take into account all the new guys coming into the program. We aren't just going to stop recruiting Cs because we have Lieb. We have Dainja, we have Morez, we really want Brown, maybe we even get Xavier Booker. Whoever it is, we will continue to bring in bigs.
I just don't see a guy that almost never plays refusing to give up his scholarship.
Im hesitant to ask but who do you think is leaving? I dont think Goode is going anywhere. Melendez should start next year. I would say coleman is going to start but the leash will be short. I want oidz back bad. The super seniors cut into his playing time.
Plus he is 24 already. Seeing charlie moore & jalen coleman lands still playing is nuts.. i feel like they came to college during the Obama administration
Love that distribution (but would plan on Kofi leaving)
Find Epps to be a very rounded player
Would be nice if they can join in summer and put on some wt (Harris for sure)
Also, when opportunity arises, would like to see Goode and CoHawk be comfortable to operate closer to the basket and not become 3 pt specialists
Since many are speculating: I see BBV, Hutch, Jake, and Payne gone. Not sure about Lieb, but maybe him too.
Sad to see any of them go, but hopefully whoever leaves does well for themselves.
Sad to see any of them go, but hopefully whoever leaves does well for themselves.
The only thing about Payne leaving is he would have to sit a year since he used his one free transfer.
I get that the transfer portal frenzy is the new reality, and I'm perfectly fine with that, but we can still choose to be respectful to the players. It's one thing to speculate on who might come in. It's another entirely to speculate on and in some instances express hopes that certain players transfer or are encouraged to transfer. Just my opinion, I'm sure many don't share it.
That's because JCL did
I think there’s a big difference between speculating who may transfer out and expressing hope certain players do. To me, that’s the biggest point of your rant. Our coaching staff still gave each of these kids a scholarship for a reason. Each of those kids also chose Illinois for a reason. Time changes things, but I don’t think as fans we should ever express hope that certain players leave.
Speculation is going to happen. Rumor mill or past experience with transfers and the reasons provided for them will cause fans to try to guess who will leave (similar to guessing who will come, commit, etc). I think the line just needs to be drawn there. To start hoping that kids leave to make room is too far.
This response has me getting my hopes up.
JFGsCoffeeMug
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His game reminds me of Taze Moore: sneaky fast, solid ballhandler, can score at all three levels.
I'm sure there's a way to speculate on who might transfer that isn't just a bunch of opinions on "who would we be better off without," but I honestly haven't seen it yet. I think it's a fine line, and not one internet message boards or social media are equipped to handle adeptly.
Nixon
I guess no one else seem to bite on this so I have to ask, you have Curbelo ranked 3-4 in point guard spot? Are you thinking he’s leaving? Also lots of guys on here are way higher on Podz than I am. What has he shown that makes people think he could start? I was thinking Curbelo at the one if around and Sky at two.
I’m really high on him. Idk what I’m missing that keeps him low, but he seems like the exact type of player we have been missing.
TheFameProtector
- Champaign
Hope for the best, (mentally) plan for the worst.
I don’t think it’s a fine line tbh. It’s not hard to focus on viable reasons that exist that may lead a player to leave, rather than discussing who you would like to see leave, or who you think leaving might make the team better.
Post A: "It would be great if Player A, Player B and Player C transfers so we can grab some improvements in the transfer portal"
Post B: "I think with the talent in the transfer portal, Player A, Player B, and Player C will end up transferring"
To me, the only difference between these examples are that A makes explicit that which is implied by B. But they're saying the same thing, just one is less subtle about it. In my opinion, I don't like either approach and just wish we'd let the process play out without throwing out names of specific players.
Bigtex
- DFW
I am with you Muskie - Curbelo is the starting PG if he returns. I am sure Podz is a good player but haven't seen enough of him to make a judgement that he will be a significant contributor.
in the heat of moment we got several I am coming back. It will be important after they get home and around support if they still think Illinois is the best for their career.
I agree neither make sense.
I’m not saying either approach is fair. But I think it’s fair to speculate who might transfer because - lack of playing time, disagreements with coaches, projected depth with CURRENT projected roster.
I would agree that saying certain players should transfer so that we can pursue someone is obtuse.
Post C: "Player A might be unhappy with his role on the team. I could see him moving on."
Touchy subject for sure. But as has been said already, it's become such a big piece of the off-season puzzle that it's impossible to ignore. Best we can do as fans is be tactful when we speculate. AND be respectful to the players when/if they decide to leave.
Nappy I_L_L
- Northern Indiana
Who knows? Maverick Morgan was talked about as a non-contributer, but as an upperclassmen, he was a large piece of the team.
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