Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
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He also called friday.... so sorta right?Thought TSJ was a?
Thought TSJ was a
I believe no. They can call us, we can't call them.
The university just had 300 Million donated to build facilities. It also makes millions of of student athletes and have for years. Like it or not these players are now pros even though they are called NIL student athletes. Sure a degree at U if I is great but so is Michigan, Duke or others. Also I doubt most of the boosters got to where they are by not trying to market themselves or get to an environment where at the very least they can't make close to the top of their earning potential. This may be an opportunity for some of these young men to make more money for a few years than they may ever. Most aren't making the NBA. After watching the games last night I hope Kofi didn't make the wrong choice himself and I wish him the best. For some of them I understand why they are doing this and I'm not sure most boosters if they were in the NIL athletes shoes wouldnt do the same to take care of themselves and their families They may love the program but family comes first. I love my job but if I was approached and could double what I made at the very least I'd consider it and probably take it. Certainly I would have as a 20 year old, could pay off a nice hime, or invest it. NIL is part of recruiting now and if we aren't competitive in that market then we could be at a major disadvantage now days.
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And I believe an insider laughed at an early comment about TSJ going to Michigan.Thought TSJ was a
I'll say. That's only going to make things worse.
sacraig
- The desert
This system has more integrity than the old system into which you willingly donated. At least in this system it's much more out in the open. In revenue sports, the idea of a student-athlete playing for a free education has been an illusion for years.
Steelyunk
- Tobacco Road
I agree with parts of your response and TegrityBooster. I hate easy and arbitrary transfer rules. I love NIL - pay these kids. There's a larger discussion to be had about post-secondary education functioning as a billion dollar semi-pro sports league. There's also a larger discussion about big colleges essentially acting as large institutional investment firms that also happen to have a school attached and the federal government subsidizing their growth with huge amounts of student loans that may or may not need to be paid back. The whole university system is broken. In the absence of fundamental post-secondary education reform I'd like our semi-pro teams to be competitive.
illiniCA
- DC Area
If there was ever a time to donate it is now... There is a real chance there a tiers of schools in NCAA sports based on NIL pools. I'd rather not get relegated in this system.
Agree, but loyalty is a two way street. Too much blame on kids for leaving yet over recruiting is ok.
What world have you been living in for last 60 years? There has never been any integrity in CBB. Now that it's out in the open you think its ruining the game? Come on now. This is one of the most head in the sand takes I've seen in a while.
This is sad but I can certainly see your point. I just think that we are in a new world. Reality has changed almost like when COVID hit us all. From my point of view, I think the support is to put the best product on the floor (field, course, court, whatever) we can and in the modern world, that means supporting a program to give them the ability to get the kids each year that they need. Whether that's recruiting incoming freshman or portal athletes. So, I am not looking at it from the athletes perspective. The NCAA has created this Free Agent type of mentality. I am supporting the program. Not saying you aren't. Just saying this is the perspective that I'm looking at it from. All this said, I think the NCAA needs to look at this new rule.
Inflation is a rough, huh
Insiders are saying Grandison is gone. Time to move on.
I got second row in Vegas for my 60th and will be at the hall up close and ready to rock!
Now let's add some stud players and experience in the portal so we can beat those tough teams in Vegas in November . Who is next?
Homecoming 2019
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I'm sure it's been hard on the coaching staffs, but this rule is a gigantic step in the right direction.
1. The NCAA talent level will increase dramatically (due to players staying in school because they are making real money), a plus for fans.
2. Do we really care about who we have lost, once they are gone it's over, I've not thought about Curbelo since his announcement. Now we root even harder for the Frazier's, Hill's, Giorgi's on our teams. A lot of the narrative and love surrounding Frazier was how he stuck it out even with everyone moving around him, which is a large factor in why he should get a banner.
3. It's been way over blown how much this actually effects the fan experience. I had just as much fun watching our team last year and will next year, as I've ever had watching our team.
4. Now I also get to watch kids who actually want to be at the school they are at instead of being handcuffed by the NCAA to stick it out. They finally have some power in this money hungry organization.
If only you guys knew how difficult some of these players and their "camps" are to deal with....this thread would be a much easier place.
If you want to talk about integrity, you could look at it in terms of the NCAA in general who have, for decades, made billions off the talents of of student athletes and forbade them from profiting off of those talents directly. Yes an education and housing, have value, but as the free market is showing it pales in comparison to what these athletes are actually worth in terms of dollars to their respective institutions. The specter of amateurism has been a joke for years, as evidenced by the snail-like pace the NCAA has adopted to enforce its own standards, particularly when its most profitable brands are involved.
Loyalty is a two way street. The process of recruiting is much like dating. You put your best foot forward and often tell the object of your desire what they want to hear. Previously, student athletes who were misled had little recourse but to stay in relationships that were bad for them for one reason or another. If anything the addition of above-board compensation, and eased transfer rules, will lead to MORE integrity in that process. Coaches have to be brutally honest about the situation they are asking the student athlete join. If they set outsized expectations, or make promises they don't intend to keep, they will lose their player. It doesn't mean loyalty won't exist. It means it will have to be earned. Which, in my opinion, is the way it should be.
Took me awhile to learn this one.....lol
With Clark and Epps on the way, we don't need an "experienced" PG. We need help at the 4, and probably a decent backup center.
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