Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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WyattEarp said:
Yep, I concur. There’s a lot of ways to skin a cat,
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And I concur with you. You could run some high-low, flash posting (no, that's not an invitation for vulgar jokes), even some double stack if you wanted to. Nance and Hawkins (I'm not as high on him as some are) could be effective in the high post and I'm assuming Dainja would be too. Kofi, on the other hand, was exclusively a low post, back-to-the-basket player. He truly was a "five." I truly wish him well in his NBA quest, but with limited athleticism and no face-up game, I'm not optimistic.
 
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altgeld88

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Mr. Roberts said:
My freshman year - I still have the issue. My recollection says the original SI article title was "Fratricide in the Big Ten".

The SI jinx got us.
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You have a very good memory. ;)

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Mr. Roberts said:
My freshman year - I still have the issue. My recollection says the original SI article title was "Fratricide in the Big Ten".

The SI jinx got us.
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You have a good memory. I don't necessarily trust on line stats from that era. My own recollection is foggy on details. Sports Reference indicates Lanter did not play at all the 1978/78 season. That must have been due to the first knee injury?

In 1978/79:

*'played 473 minutes' - sounds right. I think most or all of those of were in the first 17 games.
*'started only one game' - sounds wrong. More like 17.
*'appeared in 27 out of 30 games' - sounds dubious. He may have tried to come back after the tOSU game, but it would have been limited duty.
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Steve Lanter College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Steve Lanter - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much more
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altgeld88

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nichi said:
You have a good memory. I don't necessarily trust on line stats from that era. My own recollection is foggy on details. Sports Reference indicates Lanter did not play at all the 1978/78 season. That must have been due to the first knee injury?

In 1978/79:

*'played 473 minutes' - sounds right. I think most or all of those of were in the first 17 games.
*'started only one game' - sounds wrong. More like 17.
*'appeared in 27 out of 30 games' - sounds dubious. He may have tried to come back after the tOSU game, but it would have been limited duty.
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Steve Lanter College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Steve Lanter - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much more
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This is the player summary for '78-'79 from the '08-'09 Illinois Basketball Record Book (p. 121), the most recent one I bothered to download many years ago.

Lanter, a junior that season, played in 27 games but clearly saw limited playing time. The record book indicates that he played in 30 games as a freshman (76 of 155 from the field, 6.2 ppg avg, and led the team in assists, by a mile, with 103.) Only had 52 assists and averaged 3.2 ppg in '78-'79.

He didn't play at all in '77-'78, his sophomore year, nor his senior year '79-'80.

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WeWillWhen said:
It’s an almost entirely new roster that will employ a different style of play than the past few years. Run by a freshman PG. It will take time to come together...
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Take time? Maybe yes, maybe no. Good roundballers just know how to play. It doesn't take long for five guys on the floor to see who wants the ball... who's hitting shots... who makes the circus passes... and who Mister Clutch wants to be at the end. Human nature and all.

Sometimes you blend right way... and sometimes you never actually blend no matter how long you play together. Individual talents coming together (or not) to create a whole that is bigger than its parts.

It's a simple game that somehow can become complex and mysterious. Or... not!

Only one thing here is for certain. It's much more fun having loads of talent on the floor and on the bench than the alternative.
 
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altgeld88 said:
This is the player summary for '78-'79 from the '08-'09 Illinois Basketball Record Book (p. 121), the most recent one I bothered to download many years ago.

Lanter, a junior that season, played in 27 games but clearly saw limited playing time. The record book indicates that he played in 30 games as a freshman (76 of 155 from the field, 6.2 ppg avg, and led the team in assists, by a mile, with 103.) Only had 52 assists and averaged 3.2 ppg in '78-'79.

He didn't play at all in '77-'78, his sophomore year, nor his senior year '79-'80.

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I think this is wrong; I distinctly remember him getting hurt around the time of the OSU game and missing the rest of the season.
 
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2qtslow

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This article says he had a season ending injury in the OSU game. If true, he got nowhere near to 27 games.

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Magical moment in 1979

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Of course, my recollection of him playing with a knee brace goes out the window as well.
 
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RabidDawgClassic

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bluemountain said:
I think this is wrong; I distinctly remember him getting hurt around the time of the OSU game and missing the rest of the season.
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I think this backs that up. He got hurt in the 17th game then played none to minimally the rest of the season, bringing down his averages.

For the record, I remember it the same way you do.
 
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Roundball Sage said:
Take time? Maybe yes, maybe no. Good roundballers just know how to play. It doesn't take long for five guys on the floor to see who wants the ball... who's hitting shots... who makes the circus passes... and who Mister Clutch wants to be at the end. Human nature and all.

Sometimes you blend right way... and sometimes you never actually blend no matter how long you play together. Individual talents coming together (or not) to create a whole that is bigger than its parts.

It's a simple game that somehow can become complex and mysterious. Or... not!

Only one thing here is for certain. It's much more fun having loads of talent on the floor and on the bench than the alternative.
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2qtslow said:
My recollection, however dubious, is that Lanter tried to play while wearing a big metal knee brace. That didn't work.
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My dad occasionally referred to Steve Lanter and "his signature knee brace." It wasn't any old knee brace - it was always "his signature knee brace" so you're either correct in your recollection, or it's a commonly shared false memory.
 
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altgeld88

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bluemountain said:
I think this is wrong; I distinctly remember him getting hurt around the time of the OSU game and missing the rest of the season.
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Loren Tate's Illinois basketball history "Orange and Blue" notes that Lanter was injured the following game after OSU, against Wisconsin in the 17th game, and "lost for the season." That "27" in the record book may be a typo and 17 is the correct number.
 
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Mr. Roberts

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RabidDawgClassic said:
I think this backs that up. He got hurt in the 17th game then played none to minimally the rest of the season, bringing down his averages.

For the record, I remember it the same way you do.
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I recall him "reinjuring" the knee against OSU, then playing sparingly, and largely struggling, with the massive brace. I was just a freshman, but I seem to recall being told that he had a previous knee issue and the injury was a reinjury. Whatever. Perry Range turned into a good point, but as a freshman he wasn't ready in 1978/79.
 
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I recall that Mark Smith played point the rest of the season with miserable results. We almost won that OhIo State game Eddie Johnson got free for a
open layup but missed it. If he made that , we would have likely won the game. There was quite a snowstorm that day and my parents would not let me
leave the house to go to the game. I was so mad. I was 15
 
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altgeld88

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Illin618 said:
Not to be rude, but how does this conversation about 1970s-1980s players benefit the recruiting thread?
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While there's a lull in recruiting news it passes time reinforcing our love of the program via recounting its history. It's more interesting and useful to some than making the nth speculation concerning Pete Nance.
 
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