Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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SescIllini said:
Mcbride was physically solid for his age and could shoot with range. As others caught up he continued to fall further. He was #3 as a sophomore, around #25-30 as a junior then around #75 as a senior. I'm not sure if the injury claims have been exaggerated or just plateuing.
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He was flat footed and had back issues. I know his Dad.
 
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Godard said:
More transfer portal maddness...#1 overall recruit (to UNC) looks set to decommit (thanks to their pickup of Nance):

keepingitheel.com

UNC Basketball Recruiting: Is GG Jackson set to decommit?

The most recent GG Jackson intel does not favor the UNC basketball program, as the No. 1 overall prospect in the Class of 2023 may be heading elsewhere.
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We didn't offer him and he seems bound to his first choice, South Carolina, if headline fails Betteridge's Law ("If it's a question, the answer is 'No!'")...

...still, fun to dream, and it has me thinking...when, if ever, has U of I ever had the #1 overall recruit?
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Well, Marcus Liberty for one. And at the start of his senior year, in high school, Lowell Hamilton.
 
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I have a question about scholarships and the NIL. I probably missed something. But, if players are getting NIL offers when committing to a certain school, why do the player need need a scholarship? Why not a walkon getting NIL money?
 
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Bbuck21 said:
I have a question about scholarships and the NIL. I probably missed something. But, if players are getting NIL offers when committing to a certain school, why do the player need need a scholarship? Why not a walkon getting NIL money?
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Why would you need health insurance at your job if you’re getting paid well? Why not just buy it yourself?
 
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JacquesClouseau

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RabidDawgClassic said:
Why would you need health insurance at your job if you’re getting paid well? Why not just buy it yourself?
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Bbuck21 actually poses a good question, for which there is no absolutely correct answer. It's just the way our current society operates monetarily. Pooled insurance is cheaper and more often available to higher earning jobs. In this current system, if a school did not offer the scholarship as the perk, some other school would. In addition, a scholarship offers some stability and leverage for the player.
 
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Bbuck21 said:
I probably didn't make my question clear. Why couldn't a team add a 14th player as a walkon because the player is guaranteed NIL money? Just a hypothetical question
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This is probably semi-realistic and could happen. But only for the 13th or 14th player on the roster. Also, it would likely have to be a kid that either A) has no other D1 offers or B) is dying to play for your school and willing to pay his way (with the help of NIL)
 
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IlliniDawgs said:
This is probably semi-realistic and could happen. But only for the 13th or 14th player on the roster. Also, it would likely have to be a kid that either A) has no other D1 offers or B) is dying to play for your school and willing to pay his way (with the help of NIL)
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Which is why after the 15 cutoff, we have the preferred walk on. And yet, even UNC has four scholarship point guards on their roster, two of which will likely see action only in blowout games. Would be interesting to see how much NIL UNC offered them.
 
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Bbuck21 said:
I probably didn't make my question clear. Why couldn't a team add a 14th player as a walkon because the player is guaranteed NIL money? Just a hypothetical question
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Schools cannot under current rules offer NIL money directly, so would be a grey area song and dance.
 
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IlliniDawgs said:
This is probably semi-realistic and could happen. But only for the 13th or 14th player on the roster. Also, it would likely have to be a kid that either A) has no other D1 offers or B) is dying to play for your school and willing to pay his way (with the help of NIL)
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Here is a scenario that I was thinking of. A team has 13 scholarship players. A "guaranteed 1-and-done", instant starter, lottery pick talent, wants to come to your school and win a National Title this year. Booster steps up and provides way more than a 1 year scholarship can offer. Can't that happen? I don't know if that fits the scenario with the UNC recruit, but it could hypothetically.
 
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Emerson Bigguns

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IlliniDawgs said:
This is probably semi-realistic and could happen. But only for the 13th or 14th player on the roster. Also, it would likely have to be a kid that either A) has no other D1 offers or B) is dying to play for your school and willing to pay his way (with the help of NIL)
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Agreed. I just have a hard time imagining a scenario in which a guy who isn't good enough to earn one of the 12 scholarships being compensated to the degree that it would function as a scholarship. I would think any "extra" NIL money floating out there would be put to better use making sure you had the assets to lure scholarship worthy players. I don't think paying a 14th man would be the best use of those funds.
 
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billybaroo

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Emerson Bigguns said:
Agreed. I just have a hard time imagining a scenario in which a guy who isn't good enough to earn one of the 12 scholarships being compensated to the degree that it would function as a scholarship. I would think any "extra" NIL money floating out there would be put to better use making sure you had the assets to lure scholarship worthy players. I don't think paying a 14th man would be the best use of those funds.
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Bbuck is talking about a situation where we've already used up all of our scholarships and a guaranteed 1-and-done becomes available late in the game.
 
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JacquesClouseau

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Bbuck21 said:
Here is a scenario that I was thinking of. A team has 13 scholarship players. A "guaranteed 1-and-done", instant starter, lottery pick talent, wants to come to your school and win a National Title this year. Booster steps up and provides way more than a 1 year scholarship can offer. Can't that happen? I don't know if that fits the scenario with the UNC recruit, but it could hypothetically.
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That circumstance actually presented itself with Nance to UNC and taking up the 15th scholly. Either Nance demanded the scholly, or it was necessary under the "legal" or "monetary-tax" situation. One year of tuition at UNC for out of staters is about $ 37,000, a pittance for a big time player requiring extra NIL. And again, a scholly offers a player stability and leverage.
 
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amillini#2 said:
Schools cannot under current rules offer NIL money directly, so would be a grey area song and dance.
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Yeah, right. Try enforcing that rule since all these kids have agents. Lots of luck.
 
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IlliniDawgs

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Bbuck21 said:
Here is a scenario that I was thinking of. A team has 13 scholarship players. A "guaranteed 1-and-done", instant starter, lottery pick talent, wants to come to your school and win a National Title this year. Booster steps up and provides way more than a 1 year scholarship can offer. Can't that happen? I don't know if that fits the scenario with the UNC recruit, but it could hypothetically.
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Yeah I understand. In theory, it could happen I would imagine. In practice, no legitimate power 5/NBA bound kid is going to go to a school without a scholarship regardless of how practical it might sound I wouldn't think
 
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