Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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I have not seen anything to indicate that NIL contracts are any different from any other contracts. As such, they should be able to contain whatever conditions the two sides agree upon.

When NIL first started, I thought about performance bonuses. Then I thought about what they could do to team chemistry. What does the player with a bonus for averaging 10pts/game do if they are not comfortably averaging more than 10pts - pass to the open person or take the contested shot? The same type of non-team play distortions seemed to come up for pretty much every stat I could think of except defensive rebounding. I'm probably missing something there. Bonuses for average minutes wouldn't affect their on court play. It may sour the player/coach relationship -- you cost me money by not playing me enough.

I do think that multi-year contracts, with growing payments, or claw back clauses if the player decides to leave while the coaches still want them, might work. Bonuses for where they place in the BTT regular season, BTT tournament, and NCAAs also may work.
Agreed with your thinking, and I don't know the right answer but I'll try throwing a few things at the wall.... would FG% work better than ppg to encourage the player to take quality shots? Or assists or a team stat so they're not just playing for themselves?

A bonus for average minutes played might work if they actually get benched for not running the offense but if coach doesn't have a quality alternative to play they might not get benched until the last game of the season
 
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Any post including both “Slick Rick” and “fat bag” automatically qualifies for a free Loyalty Beach House.
I’m glad you said something. Love the streets-sounding lingo…It def. sounds like a return to the age of jive.
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I watched some Harmon video. He looks like he could play at the Big Ten level. He could be a 4th option kind of guy
 
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Sounds as if Marcus Domask is visiting this weekend, not a splash visiter, but looks like he can at least make free throws.

I just looked it up and should be a solid pick up 36 percent career from three, very good from the line. He is first team all valley and scholar athlete of the year. Appears to be similar build to Goode. I am fine with adding a first team all valley guy to our squad.
 
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Good player.

Why am I giving him any of Ty Rodgers' minutes again?
Well we are up 4 with 2 minutes left and we are not in the double bonus? There are lots of situations. After watching the tourney those teams hit FTs down the stretch. I'll have zero issues giving any 1st team all conference valley guy a Scholarship. They don't have to be a starter in order to help us win games. I recall once when folks didn't want a All Conference transfer because he was from Tulsa in favor of others. Well he went to Missouri and is still in the NBA. These all conference guys from good mid majors can play and many are better than people realize.
 
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Well we are up 4 with 2 minutes left and we are not in the double bonus? There are lots of situations. After watching the tourney those teams hit FTs down the stretch. I'll have zero issues giving any 1st team all conference valley guy a Scholarship. They don't have to be a starter in order to help us win games. I recall once when folks didn't want a All Conference transfer because he was from Tulsa in favor of others. Well he went to Missouri and is still in the NBA. These all conference guys from good mid majors can play and many are better than people realize.

For a second I thought you were talking about………Jack Ingram.
 
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Agreed with your thinking, and I don't know the right answer but I'll try throwing a few things at the wall.... would FG% work better than ppg to encourage the player to take quality shots? Or assists or a team stat so they're not just playing for themselves?

A bonus for average minutes played might work if they actually get benched for not running the offense but if coach doesn't have a quality alternative to play they might not get benched until the last game of the season
* FG% - Do you take the 1/2 court shot and the end of the half? Do you take the contested shot as the clock winds down or pass, or eat the shot clock violation? Do you take the 3 vs the higher percentage, lower pay off 2? (If FG% vs. 2FG% and 3FG%) Do you take the slightly contested 3 vs. passing? e.g. Damonte before he got his confidence back -- he only took wide, wide, open 3s @50% passing up some pretty good looking shots.

*Assists - Do you take the shot or make a pass which may result in a worse shot being taken, but get an assist?

*Average minutes was partially addressed in my initial post - player/coach conflict of $$ for not being played enough.

Any individual performance goals will probably need consider the opponents strength: Q1/Q2 games vs. cupcakes. Better players can run up stats against cupcakes. On the other side, the coach may play the role players heavily against cupcakes to try and learn who are players 6/7/8/9, and get them more experience. This team based strategy will lower the average minutes for the starters.

My work expertise is in technical team productivity (not sports). Individuals behave much better, and teams consistently do much better when the rewards are for team performance (results) and for those who most helped the team succeed; i.e. team oriented individual performance. People are very careful to not try and push individual gains at the cost of the team when they know it will impact their pay, everyone else's on the teams pay*, and everyone will know whose fault it was. If they do try, the pushback is often swift and socially harsh.

* Any English majors? Is it "... everyone elses on the teams pay", or "... every else's on the teams pay" or ... ?
 
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