Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Crazy times seeing this all in the open. At least the honest schools can compete now. Hard to be sympathetic to head coaches making +4M per year and assistants making $500k-$1M. If they don't like doing this there are 100 people waiting in line to take their job.

Used to be just Addidas and Nike bag men paying of recruits to go to Kansas, Arizona, Duke, Louisville Miami, Kentucky etc....

Recent podcast talks about scandal in more detail. Halfway through now, pretty good.

 
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skyIdub

Winged Warrior
I mean, if you really think this kind of money wasn't floating around behind the curtains before NIL, then I have a sweet deal on a beach house for you.

Recently renovated to include a treadmill room with an AI Home Assistant programmed to scream obscenities at you until you have finished that 5 miles.
 
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Noblesville Illini

Nappanee, IN
I mean, if you really think this kind of money wasn't floating around behind the curtains before NIL, then I have a sweet deal on a beach house for you.

Recently renovated to include a treadmill room with an AI Home Assistant programmed to scream obscenities at you until you have finished that 5 miles.
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Hard to believe Andre has not landed somewhere.

He has talent but looks like still suffering long term effects from concussion. Not sure what was said at half time in locker room at the Houston NCAA game but we are taught to forgive the prodigal son. Andre was a key part of our #1 seed BTT championship team.

I remember when Texas Rangers give Josh Hamilton another chance and rode it to two AL pennants.

JMO - If RayJ does not come thru I would give Andre another chance. The few St John games I watched he appeared to have significantly reduced the ineffective hero ball and played within the St. Johns offense.
You're a little off on Josh Hamilton. It was the Cincinnati Reds that gave him his second chance in 2007. Played a little over half the year with them then took big money to go to Texas, where he took off.

And no, Illinois won't and shouldn't give Curbelo another chance. His "second chance" was with St. John's, and he blew it. Let him play down a level to see if he can reboot his career there. We shouldn't want anything to do with him if we're seriously trying to build a better culture.
 
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Person A is an "elite basketball player"
Person A invests all his NIL $$$$ during the 4 years in college
Would that pretty much insure finanical stability for the rest of his life?
Thoughts?
Um, I’m not a CFP, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but I think it might depend on the investment.
 
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Think the future chaos will be considerably reduced if players are limited to one transfer without sitting a year. Not optimistic that it will happen but believe it will calm the waters. Maybe contracts need to have a buyout clause like coaches.
 
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It obviously depends on the $ and the definition of stability, but extremely likely that it would not. That said, if invested smartly it alone could be enough for retirement 30-40 years down the road.
Good answer, probably doesn’t if you plan on retiring after 4 years of college; should easily if you get ave. stock returns and don’t touch it until you hit retirement 30+ years down the road
 
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Person A is an "elite basketball player"
Person A invests all his NIL $$$$ during the 4 years in college
Would that pretty much insure finanical stability for the rest of his life?
Thoughts?

It depends. If a player were to earn say 500k- 1mil in NIL money, invested it in an S&P index fund, graduated and went to work, lived within their means, etc., then yeah come retirement time that money would be a really, really nice chunk of change. But there's a lot of ifs there. That could be life-changing money if you don't act like it's life-changing money. But I imagine for most student athletes that's not the way things play out, for a variety of reasons.

I'm also curious if that's a realistic total. Can anybody in the know shed some light on what the range of money these NIL deals can be?
 
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lstewart53x3

Scottsdale, Arizona
Person A is an "elite basketball player"
Person A invests all his NIL $$$$ during the 4 years in college
Would that pretty much insure finanical stability for the rest of his life?
Thoughts?
Depends on the type of lifestyle you’d want to live. To live reasonably comfortably for ~60 years, you’d probably need to make $5m-$10m. That seems to be pretty rare for college athletes today, but in the next 5-10 years, definitely doable.
 
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I mean, if you really think this kind of money wasn't floating around behind the curtains before NIL, then I have a sweet deal on a beach house for you.

Recently renovated to include a treadmill room with an AI Home Assistant programmed to scream obscenities at you until you have finished that 5 miles.
I may be just the buyer you're looking for!

I would bet that more money is exchanging hands now than ever. The NCAA used to (haphazardly) levy penalties to (non-blueblood) schools that paid or allowed payment to players. Now, there is literally no risk. Surely, that's attracted more dollars.

One request - Can the AI assistant instead read me Daily Affirmations from Stuart Smalley?
 
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RichardKeenesCousin

Richard Keene's Cousin
Fan bases have loved to inflate the NIL$. Makes them feel good that their school pays top dollars to get players. Bottom line is nobody knows the real amount, just 100% speculation. Remember, we are in the Wild Wild West of college athletics right now.
not sure what everyone else gets, but the Guardians pay me 100k to be a fan each year.
 
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For 98-99% of college hoops players, it is my belief that they are not concerned with whether a program can help them be drafted or drafted higher, so it would make sense from their perspective, to chase a few extra $$. In the absence of professional hoops earnings potential, I wish more of the NIL discussion could take into context things like graduation rates and average beginning salaries for graduates instead of only absolute NIL contract $ terms. Maybe the conversations do, and I'm just naive....or maybe I'm just naive in general.
Most definitely, I would also like to see to value of the education considered. Both the immediate quantified value of the scholarship and the long term, after basketball value.
 
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skyIdub

Winged Warrior
I may be just the buyer you're looking for!

I would bet that more money is exchanging hands now than ever. The NCAA used to (haphazardly) levy penalties to (non-blueblood) schools that paid or allowed payment to players. Now, there is literally no risk. Surely, that's attracted more dollars.

One request - Can the AI assistant instead read me Daily Affirmations from Stuart Smalley?

Actual cash....probably. But when you add up the $$$ value of the jobs/favors/merch handed out to "family" and handlers.....I bet it gets close.

The difference now is that the majority of it goes to the kids instead of all of the ancillary figures around them.
 
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texillwek

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I mean, if you really think this kind of money wasn't floating around behind the curtains before NIL, then I have a sweet deal on a beach house for you.

Recently renovated to include a treadmill room with an AI Home Assistant programmed to scream obscenities at you until you have finished that 5 miles.
Wait - have you been in my house?
 
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I mean, if you really think this kind of money wasn't floating around behind the curtains before NIL, then I have a sweet deal on a beach house for you.

Recently renovated to include a treadmill room with an AI Home Assistant programmed to scream obscenities at you until you have finished that 5 miles.
Spot on. Having this be above board is a good thing for teams like Illinois. Finally the money is going where it should have been.

The clean and pure world of college basketball before NIL was a fantasy that people chose to believe. If having that veil removed displeases you and reduces your viewing pleasure then you will have to adjust to what you want out cbb.
 
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