They prefer Reeves and Reeves like Illinois…There’s mutual interest their and I expect them to pursue him. If they don’t land him though than they’ll get someone else.
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redwingillini11
White and Sixth
- North Aurora
Yeah, this Reeves thing doesn’t sound remotely promising. Can’t wait to see Plan E after he isn’t interested in us….
Joel Goodson
- respect my decision™
yeah, why would a Meanstreets/Chicago guy be interested?
I agree with everything you wrote, with two exceptions. First, Rodgers is a 4 at this point, not a 3. Second I don't think Sergio was necessarily a better overall player than Rodgers. I do however think Sergio was closer to a PG than Rodgers. And it was still ugly trying to play him at PG.
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pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
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ginabackes00
CrazedUIFan
It feels like a catch .22 with PM. The staff could go all in for a guy who hasn’t shown much interest and lose him, or go all in with Reeves who has interest and possibly lose him. Only a few know what those odds are between the two And the current makeup of the team.
Granted, this wouldn’t have been the case had they not gone all in with RayJ. These past few years with NIL has really changed the dynamics. There is going to be a learning curve and it seems like those teams who aren’t blue bloods have to adjust faster to stay in line.
Granted, this wouldn’t have been the case had they not gone all in with RayJ. These past few years with NIL has really changed the dynamics. There is going to be a learning curve and it seems like those teams who aren’t blue bloods have to adjust faster to stay in line.
Sounds like staff is trying to go after Reeves, but as for the PG search, seems like we're done. My guess is Ty will play a very unconditional PG in that he'll be the one they trust to bring the ball up the court and call the play, but then he'll spend most of his time inside the arc, while other bigs like CoHawk and Quincy will cycle between inside and outside. Ty is just so naturally gifted on the boards and he really is a couple post moves away from being an absolute menace inside, that it would be such a waste in my opinion if he spends most of his time outside the arc.
The even bigger question I have is how will our defensive sets work? Ty did struggle guarding the perimeter last year- perhaps he has taken a big step forward there, but he seemed far less comfortable guarding opposing guards than forwards. As well, CoHawk is a plus defender, but he too struggles with quicker guards. So if we have those 2 on the floor and another interior defender big, be it Dain or Guerrier, I see us struggling defending any team that plays 4 guards, 5 out, or has a speedy backcourt.
In some ways our build reminds of the old Bob Huggins Cincy teams (without the plus PG) where based on three of our starters preferring interior defense, we have a 2-3 (or 1-1-3) defensive build. Those teams could beat people up inside and were good on the boards, but they got absolutely lit up by any team that could drain threes. And I'm not saying Brad is going to go to a 1-1-3 zone this year, just that the starting lineup we would have with regards to their size and defensive skills matches well with it.
Either way though, defense is definitely going to be interesting this year as being a slightly slower team, switching will likely burn us and our traditional man looks on paper like it may struggle guarding the three.
Seems like our track record of not developing guards has finally caught up to us after the Ayo luster has worn off.
No has stated, from what I have read, thus far that Harmon not qualifying was a done deal. They have actually stated if it can be done, Illinois is keeping him.
What they have been saying is if Illinois finds another guy they want, a spot will be made. To me that reads they would rather it not be Harmon and if he qualifies, someone else will be gone if it were to so happen they found someone they wanted.
No speculation I have seen on who that would be if Harmon does qualify from any of our “insiders”. Lots of speculation on this board by everyone else it would be Moretti.
Take all that for FWIW
GrayGhost77
- Centennial, CO
USAFILLINI
- Florida
With people starting to leak out Ty at PG, tells us everything we need to know about the plan to fill gaps going forward. We swung and massively missed.
Hoping the best for Ty, think he’s a stud, but this isn’t a great look no matter how you spin it. As we stand now, we’re a second round team at best, and looks like the staff didn’t/doesn’t have a concrete plan to fix the gaps.
Hoping the best for Ty, think he’s a stud, but this isn’t a great look no matter how you spin it. As we stand now, we’re a second round team at best, and looks like the staff didn’t/doesn’t have a concrete plan to fix the gaps.
Big Jack
- Decatur
Everyone complaining that this season is going the be a total disaster, what does that mean to you? The way the roster looks today I feel like we’re in that 20-30 range, certainly not great but not what I’d consider a disaster by any stretch. We should be a good team with Shannon and hawkins back a year of experience for the young guys and vets all around. We may not be a great one without a good pg but if Williams can be healthy and solid he can be good enough to help the rest of the roster shine. If we get reeves especially we’ve almost got a big three type of team and then I think we could be very good. Without really knowing how everyone fits together my initial prediction is 5-7 seed. Again not great but teams on that seed line make the sweet 16 every year and having two future pros should help.
I agree that Brads gonna have to show more but I don’t see why his seat should be warm yet. We won a big ten championship then had a failed experiment of a team that collapsed due to a number of reasons of which pg is one but far from the only problem. I don’t know how contracts and stuff all work too but wouldn’t we have to pay big time to fire him with so many years left on his deal? Seems like unless there’s a sure fire great candidate we know will come here the smart thing would be to let him try for another few years to break through that second weekend barrier. Otherwise we risk ending up in program limbo again for who knows how long. especially when we have a guy who has all the makings of a special player in Morez coming in next year, pair that up with Amani and DGL if he stays and upper class men Ty and Sencire and that could be a really good team. Just seems like it makes most sense to wait at least a couple years before firing brad is a serious thought, don’t extend him but don’t fire him yet
I agree that Brads gonna have to show more but I don’t see why his seat should be warm yet. We won a big ten championship then had a failed experiment of a team that collapsed due to a number of reasons of which pg is one but far from the only problem. I don’t know how contracts and stuff all work too but wouldn’t we have to pay big time to fire him with so many years left on his deal? Seems like unless there’s a sure fire great candidate we know will come here the smart thing would be to let him try for another few years to break through that second weekend barrier. Otherwise we risk ending up in program limbo again for who knows how long. especially when we have a guy who has all the makings of a special player in Morez coming in next year, pair that up with Amani and DGL if he stays and upper class men Ty and Sencire and that could be a really good team. Just seems like it makes most sense to wait at least a couple years before firing brad is a serious thought, don’t extend him but don’t fire him yet
Is it too much to ask to have an offense that's more than three meaningless switches up top leading to a contested three? That's why we need a pg.
foby
- Bonnaroo Land
I have huge faith in Ty's ability and desire. That being said, I hope he shows vast improvement in his handles and develops a serviceable outside shot.
Sincere will likely be seeing minutes as a PG with DGL and TY unless the staff can close the deal with reeves which seems unlikely at this point- but it's college Basketball "free agency" anything can happen-
Defensively this team should be a nightmare to play against. Lot of size and guys that take pride in guarding.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
Wow , so many hot takes and fake takes being presented in this thread as factual with no regards for the coaching staff's ability to assemble a roster worthy of being a success this upcoming season..........Well , I guess we should just give up and not even hope for good news going forward..........
Sorry , that's not how I see it........not at all.......One simple yes from a new player to don the O & B could change the whole trajectory of the next season , but the naysayers are reveling in the doom and gloom that supposedly confronts the Illini now.....
Never mind that there is still time to gain a PG ..........A PG that will fit in just fine ......................never mind that we don't know if
Mr. Williams will be ready health wise and waiver wise..................Go ahead and assign blame to the staff for the misses that we really don't know why they turned out the way they did...........
I am as bummed out as anyone here that RayJ didn't work out..........................I'm also as bummed out as anyone else that we don't have a PG upgrade from last year , but I DO know that the staff are equally bummed out because this scenario affects their livelihood professionally , so that is why I give them the benefit of the doubt..........if I ever get the feeling that the staff is intentionally trying to shipwreck our team then I will be one mad !@#$%^&*..........Until that day is upon us , I will continue to support and defend the Illini to the best of my ability...............
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Is Reeves even remotely considered a point guard? Serious question.
I think the OP "leaked out" PG by committee with Ty, Sencire, TSJ, DGL, Harmon all playing there. That's if Williams isn't available. I think of those names, Harmon would be our best option, but it turns out he may not even be available.
No. Probably even less than Sencire, Ty, TSJ, etc. Which isn't saying much. Very messed up situation at this point.
Joel Goodson
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Joel Goodson
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M tipping over
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I don’t know how many posters think this season will be a total disaster, but I think a lot of posters see the potential for this team if we can land a solid distributor and facilitator. It’s the thought that we’re so close to having a great team that’s driving me nuts. It was almost unbearable to watch this team at times last year with hero ball, little ball movement, and defensive lapses. There is nothing more frustrating to me than watching a dysfunctional team. When we had those moments when we did move the ball well and played together (on O and D), we were unstoppable. Imagine that with this year’s talent working together as a team. We are one solid PG away from that rn.
I keep trying to make a definitive statement, but I'm constantly stopped because it feels like there are still too many questions:
1) Will Williams be physically capable of playing/will he get granted the 2nd transfer?
a) if he is cleared to play from both above, will he be the same player coming off an achilles?
2) Will Harmon be eligible?
3) If we bring in Reeves, who leaves? because there is no scholarship?
a) will bringing in Reeves force anyone else to leave?
4) Are we wanting to bring in someone new even if we miss on Reeves, or is it Reeves or nothing?
5) If Harmon is ineligible and/or Williams can't play will we bring in someone else, even if we already landed Reeves?
I'm quite concerned with this PG by committee, which is typically slang for we don't have a PG, but I hesitate to scream to the hills because I don't know what the final roster will actually look like.
1) Will Williams be physically capable of playing/will he get granted the 2nd transfer?
a) if he is cleared to play from both above, will he be the same player coming off an achilles?
2) Will Harmon be eligible?
3) If we bring in Reeves, who leaves? because there is no scholarship?
a) will bringing in Reeves force anyone else to leave?
4) Are we wanting to bring in someone new even if we miss on Reeves, or is it Reeves or nothing?
5) If Harmon is ineligible and/or Williams can't play will we bring in someone else, even if we already landed Reeves?
I'm quite concerned with this PG by committee, which is typically slang for we don't have a PG, but I hesitate to scream to the hills because I don't know what the final roster will actually look like.
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