Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Why people treat the insiders like they’re on the payroll in the PR department I will never understand
Me either. I do enjoy their "inside" information, but it's been proven many times that their info is not 100% reliable. They obviously know people in the program who pass along semi-confidential information at that point in time, but it is certainly not infallible. And to their credit, they have been very up front about admitting this. If one thinks everything they tell us is absolutely going to come to fruition, well, you're just setting yourself up for disappointment down the road. But I still enjoy it so keep it coming.
 
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There’s a reason for everyone. We have a lot of guys with reasons where there “wasn’t much you could do.”
Maybe letting them play a little would help. Obviously is not always the answer, some play and leave anyway, but having them practice and watch isn't going to keep a person on the team who knows he should be playing.
 
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Happy 4th of July! Have fun and be safe!
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#55      
Maybe letting them play a little would help. Obviously is not always the answer, some play and leave anyway, but having them practice and watch isn't going to keep a person on the team who knows he should be playing.
Ability does nothing if he can’t run the offense and isn’t rotating correctly on defense. Just because you have the talent to be on the field/floor doesn’t mean you are ready.
 
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Maybe letting them play a little would help. Obviously is not always the answer, some play and leave anyway, but having them practice and watch isn't going to keep a person on the team who knows he should be playing.
This narrative is getting tiresome.
You mean like Miller, Curbelo, Clark, Epps............

And every player on the team feels like they know they should be playing more. They are not the ones who decide this.
 
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This narrative is getting tiresome.
You mean like Miller, Curbelo, Clark, Epps............

And every player on the team feels like they know they should be playing more. They are not the ones who decide this.
Read the next sentence please. The "Obviously this isn't always the answer" part.
 
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Maybe letting them play a little would help. Obviously is not always the answer, some play and leave anyway, but having them practice and watch isn't going to keep a person on the team who knows he should be playing.
or thinks he should be playing. If someone is going to help them win, the coach is going to play them.
 
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Read the next sentence please. The "Obviously this isn't always the answer" part.
I did. You still said the first part though.
Just stand by how you really feel.
You finished the second sentence by returning to your original narrative. ".....but having them practice and watch isn't going to keep a person on the team....".
 
#63      
I actually think the negative recruiting that might be going on is Illinois/Underwood can't recruit or keep lead guards.
Underwood also has a track record of putting lead guards in the NBA if they will stick with him. Obviously Ayo, and as I remember, Juwan Evans at 6' tall about 170 lbs was also drafted after one year in Underwood's system.
 
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Unfortunately, I believe this has to be true. Been a tough last couple years.
I’d agree but given everything that’s happened the past couple of years, this will all be a blip. Most fans just follow Illinois so it’s always going to be easy to point out our own deficits but most programs struggled with turnover with all the recent changes. How Underwood does this next season is going to be almost the only variable that matters and that in turn will impact our NIL potential. Heck, even UNC will recover and they managed to go from preseason #1 to missing the tournament entirely.
 
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Watched the game, nobody on the opposing team could guard him. The guards just couldn't get Rez the ball or do it effectively. Guards also never met a three point shot that they didn't love! 🙄... Rez should've had 25 to 30 points easy

Happy 4th guys!!
The way the game is played now with wide open paint and extreme spacing, most kids don’t even think to look to make post entries, let alone practice and execute them.

A couple years ago I had 2 really good bigs and we played through the low post. We had to do so much work with the guards on post entry I could have done it for entire practices.

We’re short now and run 5 out, and they just naturally have more of those small details down. It’s more instinctual for them, where for older guards (probably like the 35 and up crew), looking to enter to your big was more instinctual.
 
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It may not be the playing time per se but rather the managing of expectations. If Perrin hypothetically was sold on transferring mid-season as an impact player then sits on the bench that’s a coaching failure either way.

Multitudes of these scenarios under BU may undermine his recruiting pitch with future recruits.
 
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It may not be the playing time per se but rather the managing of expectations. If Perrin hypothetically was sold on transferring mid-season as an impact player then sits on the bench that’s a coaching failure either way.

Multitudes of these scenarios under BU may undermine his recruiting pitch with future recruits.
Who honestly believes the pitch was for Perrin to be an impact player immediately?

If he thought so, then it was obviously lost in translation. Perrin was always more of a candidate to redshirt than see impact minutes last year.

Perrin leaving is not on BU. There is plenty to fault the coaching staff for, but this is not one of them. I wish folks would stop using Perrin as a strike against BU.
 
#72      
John Groce says "Hi, remember me?"
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I know I'm in the minority, but I would have loved to have seen John Groce succeed at Illinois. He seemed to be a quality guy, but good guy or not, you have to win. He seems to just be a mid-major guy. He's done well at Akron and from an outside perspective, he makes his players better men.

This isn't a knock on the post, it was funny. Just a random thought.
 
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