I thought it had something to do with him being a generous 6'2.
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Homegrown talent in this case was referring to high school recruits (i.e. similar to a farm system/draft prospects). Had nothing to do with geographic location of said recruits. I do not have an issue with using the portal and we've used it very successfully. Where I do start to have an issue is when we are no longer simply recruiting to fill open spots and supplement our roster, but to also block the path of development of prized recruits and may cause locker room issues for what may wind up being nominal gains for the sake of "min-maxing" season roster optimization. I just don't see Amani being relegated to deep depth this season when he was likely expecting at least backup duty on an entirely open roster going into offseason, or Ty being relegated to the bench after likely expecting a starting spot going all that well. That said, the argument against what I'm saying is that Cal has made similar structures work with a new swath of 5* freshmen every year and has won a title and this approach isn't too dissimilar. That said, I have concerns about chemistry, leadership, and morale. And I think Amani could be a very capable backup, and Ty a very capable starter next year if given the opportunity, just like I think Sencire could've been a very capable starter this year had we given him the opportunity instead of signing Justin Harmon. But that's entirely up for debate and I'm certainly happy to agree to disagree.
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altgeld88
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And I recall how poorly our fans treated him at times before he did so.
Ok insiders, if you had your pick of any of the 5’s in the portal currently who would pick?
I disagree with you about Sencire and Ty’s value as starters at the elite college level because of their offensive limitations given their size. We got away with Ty this year because we had Coleman to stretch the floor, and even then, Ty only played an average of about 22-23 minutes a game. Now, both Ty and Sencire DO have significant value in a bench role as defenders, rebounders, hustle guys, etc. But there probably isn’t a need for 2 of those guys on your bench, and then there is the issue of getting those guys to buy in to those roles instead of going looking for a bigger role on a different team.
Amani is a different case. He could be awesome some day, but the staff might be questioning whether he’s ready to start next year. But I do think that as long as he’s healthy he would play a much more significant bench role next year than he did this year. So in his case I am definitely hoping that he stays and continues to develop and he could easily be a starter as a Jr and Sr imo if he can stay healthy.
I think Ty and Sencire are just kind of unique cases as guards who can’t shoot well, unfortunately.
I watched them vs Indiana State, the 6'8" guard from Lithuania (lukosis) has a beautiful stroke and quick release. I'd take him in a heartbeat. Matchup issue at 6'8" had 26 that night, and shoots almost 40% from 3
I’d like to believe this because his free throws got better, but it’s been 20 yrs and he doesn’t even consider taking them in games, so I’m skeptical.
No, hadn't ever heard that before. You don't say... My argument is that at some point you get diminishing returns and perhaps even negative returns. 6 new portal signings a year isn't always better than 4 which isn't always better than 3, even if those 6 recruits all theoretically look better on paper. Chemistry, leadership, morale, and familiarity with the system all come into play at some point in my opinion. But hey, I could be wrong. I mean I for one have never seen a group of new starters come in and have those theoretical issues...
Not me. I want all the circles filled in on my shot chart.
All kidding aside I want Ty on the court more. He'll be turning his share of offensive rebounds into buckets.
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Man there's a lot I like-Ok State kid, a couple others, but man give me Raynaud or Wolf and I am thrilled. Raynaud will be at worst a second team all conference player and I think Wolf can get to that and he's got 2 years. Either way I would be thrilled. Wolf will be very much in play if Vlad goes to Michigan
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The incredible story of college football's first -- and only -- eighth-year senior
It reads like a misprint, but East Tennessee State linebacker Jared Folks really is in his eighth year of college football, thanks to medical hardship waivers and an extra season following the COVID-19 pandemic.
The incredible story of college football's first -- and only -- eighth-year senior
and yet the NCAA always seems to make exceptions to their rules when they want to - hence it is certainly worth the tryI doubt he gets it tho
Exactly. There were other isolated cases of teams canceling mid-season. None of those players are getting a season.Spencer did play his 5 games at the end of the season, which is counter to what the rulebook on medical redshirts says. Domask played in more games than are allowed under the rulebook, regardless of any possible definition of the length of that SIU season, tweeted rumors to the contrary being flatly and obviously incorrect as ten seconds of googling indicate.
But neither matters.
The operative fact is that the NCAA has repeatedly made clear that no eligibility can be given back for 2020-21 because no eligibility was expended.
You know who really got screwed by this? Ivy League players. The Ivy League canceled their entire season due to Covid, the teams shut down, no games, no practices, Ivy League basketball did not exist.
A star UNC women's player who transferred from Princeton sought a waiver to give her back that season that was lost based on the league's decision. She was denied
NCAA Denies Carlie Littlefield's Waiver Appeal, UNC Loses Starting Point Guard - Chapelboro.com
In her lone season with UNC, Littlefield averaged 8.8 points per game while starting all 32 contests at point guard.chapelboro.com
St. John's has two former Ivy League players in the same position. They are also seeking waivers like Domask currently
Jordan Dingle and Chris Ledlum apply for fifth-year waivers
Both players missed the 2020-21 seasons due to the Ivy League season cancellationwww.rumbleinthegarden.com
"Both players’ waiver applications are unlikely to be accepted"
Feel free to dislike the NCAA's rationale here. But it is absolutely objective and clear and has been applied in a resolutely consistent manner, which will continue in Domask's case.
People talking NCAA waiver are crazy. Damask hired attorneys precisely because there's no hope with NCAA.
Really no clue on the merits of legal.
I have no issues with you for disagreeing. People have different takes and I'm definitely higher on Ty, Amani, and Sencire than most of the fanbase at this point. I think I'm pessimistic of them staying because if bringing in multiple players over them is the gameplan next year as illini0440 insinuates, I have a very difficult time believing they will accept those roles over the course of the full season next year and will all likely be gone by this time next year. And that in many ways deeply saddens me as I firmly believed all 3 could have important roles on a title contender in 2 years. But different times... Thank you for your level-headed response though, it is appreciated. And to be fair so far this is going better than the time long ago I tried defending Brandon Paul on here after a bad loss, lol.
On Ty, don’t get me wrong I’d love for him to turn into a knockdown shooter. But in my opinion the thing he needs to work on most is improving his finishing at the rim. He converted a pretty low % as a freshman and that continued as a sophomore. The shots he missed against UConn are a microcosm of that and ones you just need to finish. And he could also, as Bruce told Tisdale, learn to dunk the f****** ball.
If Ty can finish around the basket at a high clip and be assertive (at times he has Ben Simmons esque yips and reluctance to even shoot layups), and figure out how to not get hung up on screens so much on D, I think he can live with his inability to shoot. JMHO.
If Ty can finish around the basket at a high clip and be assertive (at times he has Ben Simmons esque yips and reluctance to even shoot layups), and figure out how to not get hung up on screens so much on D, I think he can live with his inability to shoot. JMHO.
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"Trusting" your existing players and refusing to aggressively engage the transfer portal to fill obvious gaps and upgrade your roster is how you end up with MSU's season. That's a one-way ticket to finishing 0.500 in conference. No thanks.
Do you consider the Evanston big a suprise?
After his meeting with Tommy
No. If it happens (I think it will but we will see) it will be in the next few days
Correct. Player meetings for a lot of schools are officially next week, so we will see a couple guys of our own likely portal
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