Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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"Trusting" your existing players and refusing to aggressively engage the transfer portal to fill obvious gaps and upgrade your roster is how you end up with MSU's season. That's a one-way ticket to finishing 0.500 in conference. No thanks.
Well, filling roster spots without regard to culture and without continuity within your system is how you get the results from last season.

I'll give every incoming player a chance to prove themselves. But I'm mystified that so many people aren't seeing much beyond ratings and stat lines.
 
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Well, filling roster spots without regard to culture and without continuity within your system is how you get the results from last season.

I'll give every incoming player a chance to prove themselves. But I'm mystified that so many people aren't seeing much beyond ratings and stat lines.
We focus on ratings and stat lines because that’s all we have access to. Obviously Brad and the staff are very much interested in how a potential transfer will fit into the culture, but we just have to trust them in that. But if the results from last season are our floor, I’m happy to swing for the fences with talent.

Edit: floor from last season meaning still a tournament lock.
 
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I have no issues with you for disagreeing. People have different takes and I'm definitely higher on Ty, Amani, and Sencire than most of the fanbase at this point. I think I'm pessimistic of them staying because if bringing in multiple players over them is the gameplan next year as illini0440 insinuates, I have a very difficult time believing they will accept those roles over the course of the full season next year and will all likely be gone by this time next year. And that in many ways deeply saddens me as I firmly believed all 3 could have important roles on a title contender in 2 years. But different times... Thank you for your level-headed response though, it is appreciated. And to be fair so far this is going better than the time long ago I tried defending Brandon Paul on here after a bad loss, lol.
Or when I got in trouble for defending Coleman's long-term potential a couple years ago.
Sometimes it's good to be the contrarian.
 
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skyIdub

Winged Warrior
Haven’t you heard? Sky’s falling!

AND HE CAN'T GET UP!!

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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL

The incredible story of college football's first -- and only -- eighth-year senior​

and yet the NCAA always seems to make exceptions to their rules when they want to - hence it is certainly worth the try

I doubt he gets it tho
Again, completely easy and simple if you want to spend five seconds on it.

2014: Redshirt
2015: Lost Season to Injury
2016: Played Season #1
2017: Lost Season to Injury
2018: Played Season #2
2019: Granted medical redshirt, Played Season #3
2020: Granted another medical redshirt, played but no eligibility burned due to Covid season
2021: Played Season #4

You get four seasons, injuries that meet the medical redshirt rules get given back, and the Covid season didn't count. It's very objective and simple.

Why stop at 8?


2016: Redshirt
2017: Played Season #1
2018: Lost Season to Injury
2019: Lost Season to Injury
2020: Lost Season to Injury (wouldn't have counted anyway)
2021: Lost Season to Injury
2022: Played Season #2
2023: Played Season #3
2024: Will play Season #4

What a story of perseverance, good for him.
 
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Why bother recruiting the HS ranks if they’re just going to be pushed out after a year or two?
Who is being pushed out? Nico? Sencire has a role if he wants to come back. But it's not as big of a role as he wants and that's fine. We are brining in top tier talent. So many power 5 schools would kill for the portal class that we are about to bring in
 
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JFGsCoffeeMug

BU:1 Trash cans:0
Chicago
Well, filling roster spots without regard to culture and without continuity within your system is how you get the results from last season.

I'll give every incoming player a chance to prove themselves. But I'm mystified that so many people aren't seeing much beyond ratings and stat lines.
Refusing to upgrade the roster has a similar effect as guaranteeing playing time to certain players. Both can also erode culture. The culture we have established involves competing and not expecting anything to be handed to you. Earn your roster spot and earn your minutes. Every new player that comes in (whether as a freshman or a transfer) will be expected to do the same.
 
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lstewart53x3

Scottsdale, Arizona
Who is being pushed out? Nico? Sencire has a role if he wants to come back. But it's not as big of a role as he wants and that's fine. We are brining in top tier talent. So many power 5 schools would kill for the portal class that we are about to bring in
Can’t remember where I first saw this quote but it hits:

“My job as a coach is to find someone better than you. Your job as a player is to make sure I can’t”
 
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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
but is there anything that the NCAA does , or doesnt do, that surprises you ?

they're truly one of the most inconsistent organizations out there, of all time
 
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Spencer did play his 5 games at the end of the season, which is counter to what the rulebook on medical redshirts says. Domask played in more games than are allowed under the rulebook, regardless of any possible definition of the length of that SIU season, tweeted rumors to the contrary being flatly and obviously incorrect as ten seconds of googling indicate.

But neither matters.

The operative fact is that the NCAA has repeatedly made clear that no eligibility can be given back for 2020-21 because no eligibility was expended.

You know who really got screwed by this? Ivy League players. The Ivy League canceled their entire season due to Covid, the teams shut down, no games, no practices, Ivy League basketball did not exist.

A star UNC women's player who transferred from Princeton sought a waiver to give her back that season that was lost based on the league's decision. She was denied

St. John's has two former Ivy League players in the same position. They are also seeking waivers like Domask currently

"Both players’ waiver applications are unlikely to be accepted"

Feel free to dislike the NCAA's rationale here. But it is absolutely objective and clear and has been applied in a resolutely consistent manner, which will continue in Domask's case.
Didn't Palcho get an extra year because he got hurt during the covid season? I can't remember all the details, but I feel like he got a waiver that surprised everyone.
 
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Govoner Vaugn Fan

New Orleans
One of these days, a court will order NCAA to grant eligibility to all Grad students... a fifth, or sixth year so long as the 'student athlete' makes normal progress toward that degree. After all, a student is a student) Then we will start to see eligibility granted for PhD students. Perhaps even a few guys will be granted waivers to play during their Post-Doc studies. A decade of playing.
 
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