Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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uofi7477

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Totally disagree on ChiefGritty. Broke my Ignore button virginity on him some time ago. I enjoy the discussions about sandwiches much more than his long winded verbiage.
 
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Right now I'm nervous about actually getting these stud transfers. I know there are guys with mutual interest, but mutual interest doesn't mean they're guaranteed to commit to us.

If/when we get some quality guys, then I'll move on the being nervous about cohesion.
How many transfers have actually committed somewhere already?
 
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there's been mention in Arizona fan circles of Boswell having some off-court concerns. I assume the staff has done their homework and are also prioritizing culture fit, etc.
 
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Why is Jase considered soft for leaving lol… If I were a solid freshman I’d definitely play at a mid major for a year then up transfer. Sitting for a year is not for everyone
I agree. It makes way more sense to get as much experience as possible and then transfer to the school of your choice. Why not follow in the footsteps of Storr, Maddox, Hill, etc. A couple of years ago the loss of Butler would have made me ill, but not anymore. Let some other school find out if he is worthy. I knew this day was coming and dreaded it, but this is just the way it's going be. Might as well embrace it.
 
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Towards the end of the season when teams like Purdue and UConn didn't guard him he didn't play 22 minutes a game and was a liability and kept bigs under the hoop. He played 8 min vs UConn to start both halves and wasn't guarded. I am sure that plus minus was awful with Clingan standing down low. Purdue left him unguarded to so if you think that won't continue and is ok then I disagree. More teams with good coaches won't put the big on Ty and dare him to shoot and clog the lane. He has to at least shoot to some degree and he really hasn't attempted a shot from beyond 10 feet in 2 years. I'm not hating on Ty I'm pulling for him. He is passionate and works hard but I'm am sure BU when they chat will tell him he needs a mid range jumper to play as much as they want him too. If he can get a shot which I have my doubts he would be a stud.
We can't judge Ty for two games against teams with literal aliens at the 5 spot.
 
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Possible hot take: Programs like Illinois should only be taking incoming freshman that are going to play in their first year or rare situations where the player's talent and commitment to the program makes them almost a lock as a long-term asset. Everything else should be filled by the portal/NIL.
Eh. I think guys like Jaksty are actually a good fit. Try to get guys that can play as a freshman or sophomore and supplement with guys that will redshirt or fill out the end of the bench and maybe produce as upper classmen.
 
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We can't judge Ty for two games against teams with literal aliens at the 5 spot.
I'm judging the fact he hasn't attempted a shot from 15ft in 2 years and now teams are not guarding him. Its not just those teams anymore. If you don't think our wings need to be able to take and hit a 15ft jump shot then we disagree what we need to win a title. I don't see how fans can debate this is needed to be the best team we can be.
 
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I agree. I think we are a legit player here, not sure if he ends up in Champaign or not yet. But he is in my top 3 of favorite guys in the portal. Elite defense and high upside offensively and a really good athlete
Any chance they go after Oweh and Storr? I'd love to add both and continue to just bully teams with size and athleticism on the perimeter.

Also, think Oweh has legitimate upside with his jumpshot. He hasn't shot well from the line and hasn't been a volume 3 pt shooter but his shot looks good when he's in rhythm.

Would love to see Oweh, Storr, and Ty on the perimeter defensively together with a shot blocker behind them.
 
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IlliniKat91

Chicago, IL
Sigh... I'm about done caring, I really am. I tend to think the reason there aren't more kids pursuing engineering degrees while playing power 5 basketball has less to do with kids not wanting an education than it has to do with kids being both that skilled in the maths and sciences as well as physically and athletically gifted are in rather short supply. And you are right, my thoughts are indeed skewed, maybe because I used to tutor Illinois athletes, or perhaps it's that I still despise Jalen Rose and don't really give much credence to the idea that no college athlete cares about anything outside of hookers, blow, and parties. Or that I still hate UNC for making a mockery of college curriculums and fielding a team of athletes who never had to go to classes while fielding a team that dashed our title hopes. Or it could be that outside of the profitable sports like football and basketball you actually see a lot more athletes having actual difficult majors and getting on the dean's lists. But whatever it is, all I know is that while I don't like it, it doesn't really matter anymore. It's where college basketball is at. Be a top 8 player on your team or begone. And you are right, Ingram is an imperfect example. Lieb would probably be a better one. But as I said, once the 4 year eligibility requirement gets struck down by the courts, in I'm guessing within the next 3 years, none of this will matter. Plus who knows, at that point we might just get a few more seasons of Kofi. I could get behind that...
I'm going to be straight up with you as someone who's been in education since 2010 and listened to her parents talk about their experiences from the cradle on. The work ethic regarding schooling has dropped off in a lot of ways. I think part of that is that those of us in education don't do a good job of making connections for students on why these subjects (and doing well in them) is important to students, but another part is just that the minute something is difficult, kids fold. It's a rare breed that pushes themselves beyond their comfort zone to be better and I think we're seeing the results of that here.
 
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Eh. I think guys like Jaksty are actually a good fit. Try to get guys that can play as a freshman or sophomore and supplement with guys that will redshirt or fill out the end of the bench and maybe produce as upper classmen.
I wonder. If Jakstys really improves, he probably will be lured away by another school. Colleges are now like minor league baseball . A player spends a year or two developing and leaves for another organization where there’s a need for his skills.
 
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Yes. I also think there are still some debates from the staff on if Boswell is the right fit that they want at pg. A couple of other guys are very interested. He could also still very well stay at AZ-why wait when you can get someone else who is good on board
I suspect they will not wait on Boswell like they waited on RayJ last year.
 
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I'm going to be straight up with you as someone who's been in education since 2010 and listened to her parents talk about their experiences from the cradle on. The work ethic regarding schooling has dropped off in a lot of ways. I think part of that is that those of us in education don't do a good job of making connections for students on why these subjects (and doing well in them) is important to students, but another part is just that the minute something is difficult, kids fold. It's a rare breed that pushes themselves beyond their comfort zone to be better and I think we're seeing the results of that here.
I've always felt, creating a person is a lot like a role playing game God has with all of us. You've only got 100 skill points to allocate over a variety of dimensions.

Some get a lot of points allocated to athletic ability, and not many left for brains.
Some get a lot of points allocated to physical appearance, but limited to intelligence.
Some get a lot of points allocated to brains, but few to social interaction.

Most of us get a moderate amount across the boards, and there are always those freaks that somehow got 150 points to allocate, but when you look at people in general, the 100 points to use theory holds pretty true. So yes, it is rare when someone is allocated enough points to be both a D1 athlete and engineer.
 
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If you’re nervous about the number of transfers that will play huge minutes for us this upcoming season, Dawn Staley and South Carolina just showed you can win a championship with an entirely new team from the previous year. It's a new era. Amass talent that can shoot the lights out. Rinse and repeat.
None of their 9 person rotation were transfers. All but T.Johnson and M. Fulwiley were on the team last year and played a lot. The 2 I mentioned are freshmen.
 
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I've always felt, creating a person is a lot like a role playing game God has with all of us. You've only got 100 skill points to allocate over a variety of dimensions.

Some get a lot of points allocated to athletic ability, and not many left for brains.
Some get a lot of points allocated to physical appearance, but limited to intelligence.
Some get a lot of points allocated to brains, but few to social interaction.

Most of us get a moderate amount across the boards, and there are always those freaks that somehow got 150 points to allocate, but when you look at people in general, the 100 points to use theory holds pretty true. So yes, it is rare when someone is allocated enough points to be both a D1 athlete and engineer.
Now I'm wondering if I'm ugly, stupid, unathletic, or awkward?

*Looks in mirror* Actually, I think God still owes me a few points.
 
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None of their 9 person rotation were transfers. All but T.Johnson and M. Fulwiley were on the team last year and played a lot. The 2 I mentioned are freshmen.
Exactly. Having a brand new team is fine, but relying fully on first year transfers rarely produces great results. Why I think the ceiling next year, regardless of what transfers are brought in, is a decent bit lower than this years if Domask doesn’t return
 
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I'm going to be straight up with you as someone who's been in education since 2010 and listened to her parents talk about their experiences from the cradle on. The work ethic regarding schooling has dropped off in a lot of ways. I think part of that is that those of us in education don't do a good job of making connections for students on why these subjects (and doing well in them) is important to students, but another part is just that the minute something is difficult, kids fold. It's a rare breed that pushes themselves beyond their comfort zone to be better and I think we're seeing the results of that here.

Happens all the time in sports. Look at Butler, the second there is adversity and has to earn his minutes he’s looking to leave. I wish him the best bust that’s not the type of player I want on my team. On the flip side look at a kid like Amani. He didn’t play much, was always engaged during the games. He’s bought into the process and is willing to work for his playing time.
 
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You want to return at least 40% of your minutes. Teams that do are more likely to improve year over year.

Alabama was the only team in the Elite Eight that returned less than 40% of their minutes.

FWIW this year's team returned 59% of their minutes and IF we don't get CH or MD back, we'll be returning around 20 - 30% of our minutes next year.
 
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