I am not disagreeing with you at all but when we got Domask, I figured that he would be an average player and maybe even come off the bench. I never figured him to be all BIG. Under the right circumstances, maybe White could be more than what we think.
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I listened to Luke Goode on the radio yesterday. He essentially said he laughs at the transfer names Illini fans throw out there.
He also said he thinks Coleman is probably done, and implied IL fans shouldn’t be upset if he doesn’t come back or even went to the portal.
For Hawkins, it makes sense to enter the portal to gather as many offers as he can. It’d give him the most options (NBA, portal to another team for $$$$, return to IL from portal)
He also said he thinks Coleman is probably done, and implied IL fans shouldn’t be upset if he doesn’t come back or even went to the portal.
For Hawkins, it makes sense to enter the portal to gather as many offers as he can. It’d give him the most options (NBA, portal to another team for $$$$, return to IL from portal)
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
To put it another way: recruiting Alex Legion was smart, RELYING on Alex Legion was stupid.
We're not relying on Tre White.
(We will be relying on Boswell, though)
We're not relying on Tre White.
(We will be relying on Boswell, though)
No matter who we bring in we likely aren’t going more than 8ish deep. Which means 4-5 guys are out of the rotation. If White buys in and cracks the rotation, great. If not he probably leaves in a year and we bring in someone else.
Someone has to occupy those non rotation roles. And I love guys like Nico and no disrespect to him and similar players, but White has a significantly higher ceiling than our 10-13 guys in recent years.
Someone has to occupy those non rotation roles. And I love guys like Nico and no disrespect to him and similar players, but White has a significantly higher ceiling than our 10-13 guys in recent years.
White is great athlete. This is huge help on defense. Can he be like TSJ or AJ Storr and develop offensive side - 3 point shot, drive to hoop. I think that is the hope.
Domask is all skill and strength. Limited athleticism.
Davis is skill and size.
Booth appears to be athlete shot blocker but has some ability to shoot the 3. Does not have bulk of Amani. It would be great to play them together.
Domask is all skill and strength. Limited athleticism.
Davis is skill and size.
Booth appears to be athlete shot blocker but has some ability to shoot the 3. Does not have bulk of Amani. It would be great to play them together.
DB11Headband
- Chicago Burbs
Legit chance we see 3 in the next week.
Agree ... I think this could move pretty quick ... Staff is extremely confident in getting all 4 guys at the top of their board ...
If things go Brad's way ... The team will be complete before May ...
Just got updated- Boswell is #20
Just got updated- Boswell is #20
Having Thiero above Boswell, Oweh and Mark is insane ... Dude averaged 7 & 5 ...
FWIW Miyakawa transfer rankings has Boswell at #6
That would be amazing. I hope Maddox and Storr follow quickly after that. Seems attainable unless the staff prefers someone over Maddox.
TrueBlueIllini
- JVegas
4 down... would expect this one will happen over the weekend or shortly after
Davis, White..... Booth and Boswell? is that the 4?4 down... would expect this one will happen over the weekend or shortly after
Maddox
Sal Iacuzzo
- Yonkers, NY
Kasean Pryor looks like a good fit
Maddox and Storr possibly after.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
I guess I take it that for the purposes of saving enough to make the Storr and Boswell duo happen, the price was right on White vs Oweh.
Impossible to know the financial numbers, but White does offer more upside and more differentiation from the Rodgers/Goode/Harris group.
I agree with your overall general stance on Tre White and I'll do some workup later tonight to support what I'm saying statistically, but I too see Tre as a moderate risk, high potential ceiling transfer, a tad more extreme but not too dissimilar to our pickup of Guerrier last year who I deemed as low risk, possible high reward. Tre's a kid who definitely has talent, athleticism, size, and has shown he can play defense when he both buys in and desires to. And similar to Guerrier, Tre had a promising freshman year followed by a transfer to team that wasn't a good fit for him and a subsequent fall off in play/effort level.
Tre's underlying stats and metrics are a lot better than many on here suggest, doing solid work on the boards and inside along with getting to the stripe, and he seems to be a big game player, having his best games against Tier A opponents. Honestly, his splits against high end competition are very good. And combined with his projections out of high school,, he does have a lot of potential and a very high ceiling in my opinion.
That said, he looked to pick up some really bad habits both defensively and with his effort level last year and from a character and team fit, there is some reason for caution as when you learn you can get away with coasting, you can easily fall back into that habit during the dog days of the season. And similarly spending a year in a bad locker room with inadequate coaching or leadership also raises a bit of a red flag. That said, I do think with having high energy/leadership guys like Sencire, Ty, and Luke on the team we are better equipped to mitigate these issues if they were to arise.
So overall, he's a moderate risk with very high upside and in our case a solid value pickup/flier. He can work his way into more minutes or work his way down the bench. That'll be up to him. I do like the idea of a player like this being able to compete against Ty, Sencire, or Luke for playing time as it will increase the level of competition, likely camaraderie as well, while keeping him on the straight and narrow always providing him a benchmark for the effort he needs.
Davis, White, Boswell, Booth, Maddox, Storr ...
Don't know for sure where we stand with the last one though ...
But where do we stand with Storr?
This seems that it's played out a whole lot like RayJ from where I'm sitting.....
Speaking on Storr (assuming that's what you mean when you say, "but don't know for sure where we stand with the last one though....)
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