Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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People are upset that players are leaving, but what would you do? Stick around and only get 8 minutes a game with almost no exposure like Dain? Transfer to where you can get 30 minutes like Podz? Dain should have gone a season earlier. Podz would not be in the NBA if he had stayed here.
If I'm not playin', I'm not stayin'!
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Chuck Nuggets

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More3s said:
Well, presumably you still have to play within the confines of your overall NIL budget, and we have to replace something like 80% of our scoring this offseason. And while I agree that Storr has a ton of talent and the best chance to be a great get out of almost anyone else in the portal, he won't be 80% of our scoring on his own, no matter how much of a star he turns out to be. So it seems to me there's just a practical top end limit to what you can pay him and still put a decent overall team on the floor.

But I'm not sure it's only about the price tag in terms of dollars, either. I'm trying to read between the lines a bit on what insiders have said, but I wonder if there have been other, non-monetary demands that have been made that might have the potential to put the team or locker room in a bad spot. I could be off base on that, but I'm probably more wary of something like a demand for a guaranteed amount of playing time, or something like that, than I am about paying a million or more for him. (But I do think there is still obviously a practical limit to that dollar price tag too)
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Right. There is a cap, whether hard or soft. Underwood can determine if Storr is worth whatever his NIL demands are. And I would take any supposed "inside information" shared here with a grain of salt when it comes to that.
 
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Joel Goodson

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Birdus said:
Storr still has to go through the process. If he doesn't want to be here, we don't need him. Brad will get the players that we need to succeed. I believe he learned a valuable lesson with the portal season before last. I am confident that we will compete and be in the top 3-4 again this year regardless who is here. I do know one thing. Tez is a beast and like nothing we had last year. When he is coached up and ready to go, he will be one of our best players. Kid has a stroke.
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who is Tez?
 
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At the end of the summer please please please consider putting these together into some kind of ebook we can flip through. To document the ebbs and tides of the board’s sentiment over time would be fascinating.
 
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aaeismacgychel

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Meh, I do see Storr as almost a must add fit this team as the falloff after him seems pretty steep for what it seems like we're trying to build. As to how to handle the bidding process, in a case like this, I see it as somewhat simple. You offer him the absolute maximum number you're willing to spend on him and say take it or we're going to have to move on, no hard feelings, much like Kansas told him. If he doesn't take it, well that's that- you already know you aren't going to spend more, so you just have to pivot at that point.

And if he comes back later to ask to take the offer, you find a way to do it. That's just how the business works right now.
 
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Illini John

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More3s said:
Sorry if I'm missing your point, but is this argument in favor of trying to get Storr at all costs??
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Not just Storr, but any top level player that shows an interest in playing here. We got close this year, but if we want to hang with the big boys and potentially win a national championship, then we have to pull in all the top talent that we can get. Bill Self can afford to give ultimatums to Storr because there's a line of top-25 players waiting to play for Kansas. We aren't there yet.
 
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Grandpa said:
People are upset that players are leaving, but what would you do? Stick around and only get 8 minutes a game with almost no exposure like Dain? Transfer to where you can get 30 minutes like Podz? Dain should have gone a season earlier. Podz would not be in the NBA if he had stayed here.
If I'm not playin', I'm not stayin'!
Guys who know that they suck should play where they get paid the most, or where they want to get their degree.
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Regarding all of this, I trust coach.
Brad looks to be among a few major program coaches that are successfully navigating the new era of NIL / transfers. Our success this past season speaks to this. You essentially build a new team annually. The best players will play, get the minutes. Players will be recruited over and Creaned.

Elite athletes looking to play at major programs can't !!!!! and moan but rather maximize their talent and bring the best possible game they have. Otherwise they should transfer to where it works for them.
This is the new reality, harsh as it may seem. Again, I trust coach.
 
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americanoutlaw11

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Orangetool said:
Regarding all of this, I trust coach.
Brad looks to be among a few major program coaches that are successfully navigating the new era of NIL / transfers. Our success this past season speaks to this. You essentially build a new team annually. The best players will play, get the minutes. Players will be recruited over and Creaned.

Elite athletes looking to play at major programs can't !!!!! and moan but rather maximize their talent and bring the best possible game they have. Otherwise they should transfer to where it works for them.
This is the new reality, harsh as it may seem. Again, I trust coach.
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All those years in JuCo
 
#93      

Mr. Roberts

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This portal world reminds me of fantasy baseball in the 90s. $260 to build a team, player auction at the beginning of each year, 8 categories (HR, RBI, ERA, etc.) you tried to flesh out for a balanced team, and every owner had to decide whether to go big for the stars or spread the dollars among the solid contributors. And there was always the one guy who fell in love with a player and way overpaid. Good times.
 
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ptgrd23 said:
KY needs to make big splash. I think they pay $1.5m for Storr after NBA camp. Lets move on. Give Armani, Luke, DGL and Ty more NIL money so they come back happy.
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1.5M is a whole different set of circumstances. That's ridiculous. There's not one player, not named Zach Edey, that would have been worth that last year and even moreso for this year.

Storr is a heck of a player and could be a headliner on a really good team.....but that's a put your team on your back and carry them to a Final Four type of deal/arrangement. He's nowhere remotely close to that type of guy. There isn't a kid available with that type of talent.
 
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Illini John said:
Not just Storr, but any top level player that shows an interest in playing here. We got close this year, but if we want to hang with the big boys and potentially win a national championship, then we have to pull in all the top talent that we can get. Bill Self can afford to give ultimatums to Storr because there's a line of top-25 players waiting to play for Kansas. We aren't there yet.
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Yep, definitely agree on those points. But you still need to play 5, and there's probably maybe 7 or so in your rotation, so that talent is cumulative across that group. If getting Storr means the rest of your talent has to be less due for whatever reason, then that would seem to be an argument that there is an indeed some upper limit to what you can afford to pay to get Storr. But your point about us not being able to be as picky about what high-level talent we pass on compared to someone like Kansas is well-taken.
 
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