Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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As long as we don’t pick up the “new money” arrogance of UConn fans.
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Seriously. The psyche of some of our fans is so annoying. John Groce’s tenure holds more weight to them than being consistently good for the last five years AND being consistently good for decades before that. They’re predisposed to be negative and pessimistic, and they’re CHOOSING this attitude even when past evidence (e.g., Underwood recruiting the portal well and not finishing low in the standings) goes against their schtick.

Again, at this point this fan base needs a desperate injection of cocky homers. We have the swagger of a program that’s coming off of 5 NITs, not an Elite Eight, several NCAAT appearances, consistently top 20 teams and 3 Big Ten banners. 🙄
Go see Illini Twitter for more than our fair share of cocky homers. This board just has a streak of vocal, relentlessly pessimistic posters. I thought the fragile psyche would be shorn up with this last season’s results (especially after so many had attributed all our previous BU success to ‘getting Ayo and Kofi’), but I guess we’ll need a lot more than that to fix it.
 
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The only point they are making, in my humble O, is that maybe there should be a balance of getting proven talent that is perhaps at the end of their growth potential versus young unproven talent who are at the beginning of their growth potential (see Podz). Don't give up too soon. I think this staff gets that. I really, really do. Eventually someone will prove with data that there is greater revenue generated by winning with a team that has a greater average number of years spent playing with said team versus lower average (high turnover) years team. I really think that gets proven. Winning is extremely important (the most important), but it's not everything...


No one is giving up on players. Podz wanted guaranteed minutes and transferred down a level. Coleman stuck it out and look at how he developed. At this level winning is everything. This is a cut throat business, this isn’t the goodship lollipop.
 
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IU has money ... And Woodson has been putting dudes in the league ...

TJD is in the league ... Ware is going to be a 1st rounder ... Hood Schifino went 1st round ...

If Mgbako takes a step ... He'll be a 1st rounder ...
Kind of sounds like the Calipari method at Kentucky. Unfortunately for Woodson he hasn’t been able to turn highly ranked players into winning teams. Even Cal has struggled with that lately. If it doesn’t work this year then I would hope for Woodson’s sake the contract buyout is significant.
 
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Chuck Nuggets

Dip your nuggets in my staff source sauce.
No one is giving up on players. Podz wanted guaranteed minutes and transferred down a level. Coleman stuck it out and look at how he developed. At this level winning is everything. This is a cut throat business, this isn’t the goodship lollipop.
Because he's SOFT. The experts here told me so.
 
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No one is giving up on players. Podz wanted guaranteed minutes and transferred down a level. Coleman stuck it out and look at how he developed. At this level winning is everything. This is a cut throat business, this isn’t the goodship lollipop.
No one knows what Podz wanted. Heck one of our "insiders" claimed he wanted a guaranteed starting spot!

Everything I've seen from Podz post Illinois shows he's the EDG that we claim we want. Our staff just didn't see it.
 
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No one knows what Podz wanted. Heck one of our "insiders" claimed he wanted a guaranteed starting spot!

Everything I've seen from Podz post Illinois shows he's the EDG that we claim we want. Our staff just didn't see it.

The same staff saw him everyday in practice. Their will be misses along the way but I get not guaranteeing him minutes.
 
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The same staff saw him everyday in practice. Their will be misses along the way but I get not guaranteeing him minutes.
I totally agree on PT guarantees. But that very year it was suggested that Clark got it.

Someone last week asked insiders to comment on such guarantees for top talent. None chimed in.

If some players get guarantees and others don't it may cause issues.
 
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I totally agree on PT guarantees. But that very year it was suggested that Clark got it.

Someone last week asked insiders to comment on such guarantees for top talent. None chimed in.

If some players get guarantees and others don't it may cause issues.

100% agree with you. Guaranteeing Skyy a starting spot was a very bad decision
 
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As always, it all comes down to defining vague terms. Cal last made the final four in 2015. How many lottery picks has he had in that time?
Cal did not make them lottery picks!!! They would have been lottery picks no matter where they played or the rule that the NBA has that will not let them go straight from high school
 
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No one knows what Podz wanted. Heck one of our "insiders" claimed he wanted a guaranteed starting spot!

Everything I've seen from Podz post Illinois shows he's the EDG that we claim we want. Our staff just didn't see it.
Well nobody including you saw it. A lot of people can claim to have known Podz was that good after the fact. Arguably Moretti had more impact this year than Podz did his freshman year.
 
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Cal did not make them lottery picks!!! They would have been lottery picks no matter where they played or the rule that the NBA has that will not let them go straight from high school
agreed, same with the guys Woodson has put in the league. Coach didn't get them there, those guys got to college with NBA talent
 
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