Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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I hate the new landscape in college basketball, and maybe it's not just basketball. I grew up watching players grow into roles on a team. I got to watch as new players blended in to the rotation of players that we already knew. Now, they just go get whatever type player you need, and when the season is over you find someone to take their place. No loyalty in either direction. The mid majors are serving as a feeder program to the power five conferences. Why root for or get excited for high school signing classes? They are just gong to get recruited over and pushed out in a year or two.
Bring back pay phones, Only 3 networks 1 national game of the week, my 20" black and white TV set, and getting all my Illini news from Loren Tate's News Gazette column 😁

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Same thing people said about domask. Not saying he is domask, but he is very skilled offensively. Just because a guy isn't athletic, doesn't mean he can't be a stud.
where was I at for all this Domask hate? because I don't remember any of it. I remember people saying, ok not who we were expecting but this guy looks like a stat stuffer, and the board was generally pleased.

The most shocking thing about Domask was his portal ranking, which was quite frankly stupid. The guy was player of the year for Wisconsin as a Sr. He was Fr of the Year in the MVC and 2nd team all conference his first year at SIU. Injured as a Soph, then 2nd team again as a Jr and 1st team all conference as a Sr. He averaged 17, 6, and 4 as a Sr while shooting 45% from the field, 35% from 3 and 85% FT. Never averaged less than 13 ppg. Always over 82% FTs, over 5 rpg as a guard, etc. In short, no one who looks at his stats should have been even slightly shocked at his performance, especially given he was 6'6" 215 and a 5th year player.

With Humrichous, there is far more unknown. He spent 3 years at the NAIA level, then stepped in to the 10th place MVC team and played quite well. But the MVC is a pretty mediocre, top heavy, mid-major conference. Humrichous was either 3rd team or honorable mention all MVC, can't remember which. He was the scholar athlete of the year, though I have no idea what that is. He actually scored more points and shot much better from 3 at Evansville than he did in the NAIA.

Point being, Humrichous certainly looks good, but he doesn't have the pedigree Domask did. If anyone expects him to be a lead player, I think that's awfully risky. I'd personally see him as a Goode replacement. Someone off the bench that can hopefully hit you a 3.

Everyone is reacting prematurely, because we still don't have our full roster yet, so I've tried to hold off and be patient. One thing I'll say, we need someone who can give us at least 75% of what Shannon did. I don't see anyone we're apparently in tight with right now. David Jones would fit that bill, but remember, FedEx just pledged a ton of money to Memphis. I certainly don't think we can pencil him into the roster. We need someone that can carry the load when needed, and Shannon carried an awful lot of the load for this team last season.
 
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Yep! I have faith but this happens every year when we don’t get the guys that everyone says are locks like RayJ and Storr
 
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DeonThomas

South Carolina
Got a chance to talk to Justin (wearing Ty’s #20 jersey) at the ICON event on the field at the Spring FB game. What a great kid. I said how glad Illini Nation was that he chose to come play at Illinois and what a fun season we had. He teared up as he responded with that he was SO glad he came here and that he felt very, very blessed… 🧡 💙
Love this post --- thanks for sharing.
 
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I knew the Domask stuff would come, but dragging Dalton Knecht into it is really next level “all white basketball players are the same” stuff.

Humrichous is significantly longer than either of them. High and quick release too, that jumper plays at any level. But, I’ve watched all the clips I can find on Youtube and I don’t think I’ve seen him post up a single time. Neither does Knecht.

Domask *always* had that. He sought out back-to-basket situations which is not typical for players of his size, not really typical for anybody these days. It was a unique aspect of his game personally.

Brad Underwood is not a great coach because he reworks pieces into an assembly line of the same roles. It’s precisely the opposite, Underwood is one of the great compilers of weird pieces, he finds ways to let guys do what they do best in a team context.

We’re not going to play booty ball next year unless we have a guard for whom that is an existing strength. Humrichous is neither a guard nor is that an existing strength. He will do what he’s good at which is shoot over people and drive against undisciplined closeouts when teams lose track of him.
The boldfaced is right on the money. I’m glad to hear someone mention this. It seems straight forward that it’s personnel-based. I agree that has been a strength of Brad and Co…his willingness to adapt to his players’ strengths.

These assumptions that the Illini(or anybody else) will have identical schemes from year to year is just unrealistic and preposterous to me.

Even though we’ve seen Brad consistently overhaul his offense and defense pre, mid, and post-season how many times now?

For ex. If we’d gotten Storr, suposedly
we were just gonna plug him into the” Shannon spot” …like he’s an interchangeable spark plug…and nothing else will be different. No other moving parts…no other details will come into play I guess? I don’t get it.
 
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humrichous is a guy who can shoot the hell out of it, handle the ball in PNR, good passer, and booty ball
Id expect his numbers to translate 1:1 from the MVC to the big 10 just like marcus domask.
Except that all of worst games were against the good teams he played and he struggled against athletic defenders.

Domask’s struggles were more related to only having 3 competent players on SIU and facing double teams constantly.
 
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I knew the Domask stuff would come, but dragging Dalton Knecht into it is really next level “all white basketball players are the same” stuff.

Humrichous is significantly longer than either of them. High and quick release too, that jumper plays at any level. But, I’ve watched all the clips I can find on Youtube and I don’t think I’ve seen him post up a single time. Neither does Knecht.

Domask *always* had that. He sought out back-to-basket situations which is not typical for players of his size, not really typical for anybody these days. It was a unique aspect of his game personally.

Brad Underwood is not a great coach because he reworks pieces into an assembly line of the same roles. It’s precisely the opposite, Underwood is one of the great compilers of weird pieces, he finds ways to let guys do what they do best in a team context.

We’re not going to play booty ball next year unless we have a guard for whom that is an existing strength. Humrichous is neither a guard nor is that an existing strength. He will do what he’s good at which is shoot over people and drive against undisciplined closeouts when teams lose track of him.

So basically a Quincy replacement? Hopefully better/more consistent shooting but worse defender and rebounder?
 
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I knew the Domask stuff would come, but dragging Dalton Knecht into it is really next level “all white basketball players are the same” stuff.

Humrichous is significantly longer than either of them. High and quick release too, that jumper plays at any level. But, I’ve watched all the clips I can find on Youtube and I don’t think I’ve seen him post up a single time. Neither does Knecht.

Domask *always* had that. He sought out back-to-basket situations which is not typical for players of his size, not really typical for anybody these days. It was a unique aspect of his game personally.

Brad Underwood is not a great coach because he reworks pieces into an assembly line of the same roles. It’s precisely the opposite, Underwood is one of the great compilers of weird pieces, he finds ways to let guys do what they do best in a team context.

We’re not going to play booty ball next year unless we have a guard for whom that is an existing strength. Humrichous is neither a guard nor is that an existing strength. He will do what he’s good at which is shoot over people and drive against undisciplined closeouts when teams lose track of him.
So Humrichous is a more refined Guerrier offensively?
 
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This is a fantastic “bring people back to reality” post. Luke was/is a very solid role player for us. This center (can’t even spell his name) is already on many NBA draft boards with such pathetic numbers. There is a reason for that 7 foot - 7’ 6” wing span and runs like a deer. He just needs more time on the floor and we can provide that if he were to come here.
 
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Depends on if he wants more playing time or the degree. With him graduating with a business degree, getting a MBA or something from Indiana would make sense if the degree is his ultimate goal. If he wants playing time though, he'd be better off looking at a smaller program.

Either way, it has to be easier for his family to get to a game in Indiana than in Illinois. If we want Illinois dudes to come back to us for that reason, I can't really hate on guys from other states doing the same. I'd hate seeing him suit of for IU, but I'm always going to wish him well.
Kellog MBA would be huge and he can play there.
 
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Onyenso might be top shot blocker in CB,good rebounder,lob threat and developing offensive game.Would improve defense greatly,whats not to like? Not to mention that he is 7feet tall,245 lbs,runs like a gazelle.
Exactly- and he’s only 19- OA’s pitch is “let me work with you one more year in a staring role and you’ll be a lottery pick”
 
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