Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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gary?
KingWolf11 said:
Pat Beverly was on a pod today saying him Jon Scheyer and Sherron Collins wanted to come to Illinois together but they didnt offer him so they all went elsewhere
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i guess longstreet didn’t show him the canceled checks.
 
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BretMyBeachHouse
RJK01 said:
Since it didn't happen last week, I can't guarantee that I remember correctly, but I thought Weber was interested in Beverly, but never received his high school transcripts. I also think that Beverly wouldn't have been admitted to the UofI.
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Yes, all BS from Beverly. After his junior year there wasn't much interest from anyone. Collins and Scheyer were big names. No way they're tying themselves to Beverly.

In the spring when he started to blow up we asked for transcripts before we'd have him for an official, I believe. He wanted the visit first.

You might think of that as an early indication of how Weber's stubbornness hurt him. Have the kid down. What's the harm.
 
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More athleticism? I'm not saying the international newbies are quick twitch, jump out of the gymers, but sign me up for 1 KJ, 1 Will Riley, and 1 Ivisic on a yearly basis. What they may lack in athleticism they more than make up for in skill. We all knew (and should still know) that this team with 1 active returning player from last year's roster (love DGL but at 5-10 mins/game he can hardly be considered a hyper important part of the team) was going to take some time. It's waaaaaaaay too early to judge what they will become. I think we're a top 15 team by February. I was as frustrated as the next fan on Wednesday - and not just for the 8PM CST tip on a week night for two top 25 central time zone teams - but this team is farther along than I thought they'd be right now.
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16.3 mpg. More than Johnson and just under Tre’s 18 mpg. He may not be hyper-important, but I think he is important enough.
 
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Second place is 1st loser
KingWolf11 said:
Pat Beverly was on a pod today saying him Jon Scheyer and Sherron Collins wanted to come to Illinois together but they didnt offer him so they all went elsewhere
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This is blatantly false. Scheyer was never not going to Duke. Collins considered us until Self left. Beverly was struggling with eligibility coming out of HS, so that wasn't happening either.

Not sure what his point was in bringing that up?
 
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RJK01
BretMyBeachHouse said:
Yes, all BS from Beverly. After his junior year there wasn't much interest from anyone. Collins and Scheyer were big names. No way they're tying themselves to Beverly.

In the spring when he started to blow up we asked for transcripts before we'd have him for an official, I believe. He wanted the visit first.

You might think of that as an early indication of how Weber's stubbornness hurt him. Have the kid down. What's the harm.
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Weber probably knew that he couldn't be admitted, but I agree that letting him come to visit on his dime wouldn't have been a problem. Or maybe Weber knew about Longstreet's involvement in Beverly's recruitment and didn't want the grief. Beverly's recruitment reminds me of Liberty' recruitment. Cox let it be known that Liberty would go to the school that would pay Cox $100,000 and he would "take care of" Liberty. No coach wanted to deal with Cox. I was told that an Illinois booster paid Cox $25,000 and he bought a Cadilac and Liberty didn't get anything.
 
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RJK01
Second place is 1st loser said:
This is blatantly false. Scheyer was never not going to Duke. Collins considered us until Self left. Beverly was struggling with eligibility coming out of HS, so that wasn't happening either.

Not sure what his point was in bringing that up?
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Collins went to Kansas because a Kansas booster gave his mother an apartment and spending money so she didn't have to find a job. She was upset when Collins used up his eligibility and she lost the apartment and the money.
 
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16.3 mpg. More than Johnson and just under Tre’s 18 mpg. He may not be hyper-important, but I think he is important enough.
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Valid point as I think my comment wasn't 100% clear, but for the record I was referencing DGL last year where his stat line was:
  • Played in 28 games as a freshman, averaging 2.4 points and 0.9 rebounds in 7.1 minutes per game per UofI MBB official website.
Additionally, I was just making a ballpark estimate and hadn't looked that up until now. All that said (and I'll say it again), I love DGL. I'm glad he's on the team, and I hope he continues to grow his game and find an ever expanding role with every year that he's with us. To your, point, he's already averaging a little more than double the minutes he did last year. I do think that average likely dips as we play increased competition, but if it doesn't it means he's earned the minutes. One of the many things I really like about BU is that he makes his players earn their minutes - possibly with the exception of freshman year Mark Smith. DGL has shown he is tough and willing to take the coaching. My point of referencing DGL at all in a post that was intended to be exclusively about international players' athleticism/skill is that we basically have a 100% brand new team so evaluating their potential for the year based on their performance mid-way through November is...well, not smart imo.
 
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Valid point as I think my comment wasn't 100% clear, but for the record I was referencing DGL last year where his stat line was:
  • Played in 28 games as a freshman, averaging 2.4 points and 0.9 rebounds in 7.1 minutes per game per UofI MBB official website.
Additionally, I was just making a ballpark estimate and hadn't looked that up until now. All that said (and I'll say it again), I love DGL. I'm glad he's on the team, and I hope he continues to grow his game and find an ever expanding role with every year that he's with us. To your, point, he's already averaging a little more than double the minutes he did last year. I do think that average likely dips as we play increased competition, but if it doesn't it means he's earned the minutes. One of the many things I really like about BU is that he makes his players earn their minutes - possibly with the exception of freshman year Mark Smith. DGL has shown he is tough and willing to take the coaching. My point of referencing DGL at all in a post that was intended to be exclusively about international players' athleticism/skill is that we basically have a 100% brand new team so evaluating their potential for the year based on their performance mid-way through November is...well, not smart imo.
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I don't think DGL's minutes will drop much if at all. He is our only depth at Guard behind KJ and Boswell. If those two both play 32 mpg that leaves 16 for DGL.
 
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jamarvelous31
BretMyBeachHouse said:
Yes, all BS from Beverly. After his junior year there wasn't much interest from anyone. Collins and Scheyer were big names. No way they're tying themselves to Beverly.

In the spring when he started to blow up we asked for transcripts before we'd have him for an official, I believe. He wanted the visit first.

You might think of that as an early indication of how Weber's stubbornness hurt him. Have the kid down. What's the harm.
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I feel like in the 2000s Chicago had a late blooming 'star' every year. Pat just happened to be different.

I cant remember if there was a limit on officials back then, but it definitely seems like a case of Weber & Assistants not knowing the game.
 
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rtbritt
SummerofGeorge said:
A post about an upcoming 5-star recruit visit nearly 24 hours ago and zero responses so far. My how times have changed!
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It’s crazy how our hopes aren’t tied to getting a savior recruit anymore.

The portal is our most important part of every offseason nowadays, and since we are a “have” rather than a “have not,” we are able to chill and just wait and see what happens.
 
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BretMyBeachHouse
rtbritt said:
It’s crazy how our hopes aren’t tied to getting a savior recruit anymore.

The portal is our most important part of every offseason nowadays, and since we are a “have” rather than a “have not,” we are able to chill and just wait and see what happens.
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I'm not sure how you can say that about the portal. Our two best players right now are non-portal guys.

That said, the portal as well as the reclass issue and the constant flow of decommits has certainly changed my interest in recruiting.
 
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WeWillWhen
BretMyBeachHouse said:
That said, the portal as well as the reclass issue and the constant flow of decommits has certainly changed my interest in recruiting.
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College Hoops has been impacted by this top to bottom. I attended a game over the weekend between two mid-majors (a friend's son is on one of the teams). Between the two teams, eight of the ten starters were transfers, several at their third schools. Only three kids on each entire squad were returnees for their second year at the same school. Sound familiar?

College basketball as currently structured is thousands of free agents on nine-month contracts. Revenue sharing will not lead to less musical chairs. Only multi-year contracts could accomplish that.
 
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WeWillWhen
P.S. Was interesting to see that one of the teams was coached by former Gophers head coach Dan Monson . . . now at Eastern Washington. He probably should have never left Gonzaga back in the day . . . I hope he got (and saved) a big bag from Minny.
 
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rtbritt
BretMyBeachHouse said:
I'm not sure how you can say that about the portal. Our two best players right now are non-portal guys.

That said, the portal as well as the reclass issue and the constant flow of decommits has certainly changed my interest in recruiting.
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Well, TSJ and Domask were pretty nice portal gets. Mayer was a nice get, even if polarizing.

Boswell big get, too.

Though I will concede, our overseas recruits outweighed our portal gets this year.
 
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Noblesville Illini
rtbritt said:
It’s crazy how our hopes aren’t tied to getting a savior recruit anymore.

The portal is our most important part of every offseason nowadays, and since we are a “have” rather than a “have not,” we are able to chill and just wait and see what happens.
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He plays for the Bulls now!
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#100      
thefalcon5
Regarding international prospects… is this move something college athletics is embracing more now than ever before, or something Illlinois just never did until recently?

Maybe something to do with NIL helping lure some big names?
 
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