Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
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What a ride man! I never thought I'd see the day we'd beat an SEC team in an elite bowl game out South. I've been watching since '97. Fortunately, basketball has been a beast under coach and there is no looking back.
Mikel Brown to Louisville
the snap of a few sparks, a quick whiff of ozone
Is this good or bad for us?
IlliniKat91
- Chicago, IL
Good, I'd imagine. It lets us complete with schools in states who already allow this, and gives us an edge over schools in states who don't
With the media exposure we’ve gotten this week in both programs, this is perfect timing and fantastic for us.
drsmitty74
- Rochester
I thought Missouri's law had something to do with high schoolers being able to recieve NIL once they commit. Maybe I am mis-remebering.
sacraig
- The desert
I'm not entirely opposed to this if only because many college degrees also take 5 years these days.
skyIdub
"I can't tell you. Secret."
Do you have a source? I just went looking for data on this and seemed to find the opposite. The time per undergrad seems pretty steady. The number of four year combined BS/MS degrees seems higher.
UIUC:
4-year graduation rate: 72%, 5-years: (I could not find it), 6-years: 85%
So 80%+ of the students who are going to graduate do so in 4 years.
Looking at national studies:
65% of the students who go to college straight out of high school, or after a year gap, and are still considered dependents are graduating in 4 years. (Some take 5 years, many never graduate.)
The people taking 5+ years seem to be one or more of:
1) Older (24+), going back to school, and with other responsibilities. e.g. self-supporting.
2) Part time students
3) Taking a year or more off during their matriculation.
In the CA system: 5 years has become common due to the inability to get into all the classes needed for graduation. The schools decided that if everyone who takes 12+ hours pays full tuition, then the university gets the most money per student by accepting more students and having each student only able to take 12-14hrs at a time vs. 16-18hrs. Students pay 5 years of tuition for those same 4 years of classes. As a bonus, most of the "extra" students are out of state (out of country) students who pay the highest freight.
I don't think Gilfillan is reading this right. This is more like the Missouri law which allows high schoolers to get NIL. There's language in there that allows the university to cooperate in the arrangements.
I think the Missouri law wasn't necessary. If the NCAA can't bar students from receiving NIL there's no reason to believe that a similar restriction at the high school level would be legal. But this will clarify that it's fine so that will be nice.
I think the Missouri law wasn't necessary. If the NCAA can't bar students from receiving NIL there's no reason to believe that a similar restriction at the high school level would be legal. But this will clarify that it's fine so that will be nice.
IlliniKat91
- Chicago, IL
Wasn't the Missouri law just for local kids who committed to Missouri schools? I thought it was primarily meant to help keep talent in-state. I also thought that by couching it under NIL they were trying to prevent any arguments about them not being amateurs, which might have impacted their NCAA eligibility. But I could be mistaken
madillini4
Ozamataz Buckshank
- Millywaukee
This was my understanding as well.
I don’t think this is good data though because it still counts all the people who just don’t finish. Of the people who do finish, I bet 80%+ graduate in 4 years
According to this only 44% of bachelor's degree recipients finish in 48 months or less.
Fast Facts: Time to degree (569)
The NCES Fast Facts Tool provides quick answers to many education questions (National Center for Education Statistics). Get answers on Early Childhood Education, Elementary and Secondary Education and Higher Education here.
nces.ed.gov
For 23 and younger, the age range of most athletes, that rate is a bit higher at 65%. That still leaves a significant number taking 4.5, 5, or even more years.
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