If memory serves, big O was given a contract by us and he told Brad about big Z’s brother - Tomi and I believe when they were over scouting in Europe they saw KJ play and inquired about him also. Isn’t that something how that worked out? Geof and big O, thank you.
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The flippant answer is "never miss an offensive rebounding opportunity".
robertgoulet
IL Board Resident Crooner
- Austin, TX
Reminds me of that great Van Wilder quote: Worrying is like a rocking chair; It gives you something to do but it doesn't get you anywhere because BU has this train rolling and it will keep rolling regardless of who leaves and that's what really gets you somewhere.
ptgrd23
- orange county CA
Orlando will be working with Morez daily on post moves.
Tomas may be in line for very nice Euro contract or go NBA on potential alone. He has great outside shot, nice post moves, hits his free throws and handles the ball well. People would be screaming stretch 4 if he was 6'9". At 7'1" he screams NBA. I hope we have him for 2 years.
If Tomas moves on Morez will be our starting center. I hope he is improving on free throws and a free throw line jumper. Learn from Trey.
Tomas may be in line for very nice Euro contract or go NBA on potential alone. He has great outside shot, nice post moves, hits his free throws and handles the ball well. People would be screaming stretch 4 if he was 6'9". At 7'1" he screams NBA. I hope we have him for 2 years.
If Tomas moves on Morez will be our starting center. I hope he is improving on free throws and a free throw line jumper. Learn from Trey.
Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
Rhinelander, $2.99/case with returnable longnecks. (mid/late 80's).
I still haven't gotten used to how we have guys as good as Morez, DGL, etc., that come in as our sixth or seventh players.
Glad the Groce days are in the long ago.
Battle89
- Cary-Grove, the better Trojan team
LOL to be honest I read it for years as 2-quart-slow and I wondered what that was all about. One day, oh....move the 's'...
Govoner Vaugn Fan
- New Orleans
The original "thought" - if you can call it that - was of an old pickup truck that was low on oil. Seemed a perfect name for a country rock band.
But I'm liking the alternative readings!
I will find anything to freak out about. But also to be fair Indy said Brad already considered Morez as out the door
Dr Copejam
- The Rock
Yes sir!!! Tasted like the finest of rat’s p#ss, but got the job done.
Foremost Liquor’s select.
And then the game thread is just why isn’t Morez playing more
TL;DR I think the numbers only make sense for going pro vs. NIL if you are drafted in the NBA first round.
Unless you are a top 10 player, Euro contracts are less than NIL.
Unless you are a lottery pick, you will probably make more staying 4 (5) years in college and then seeing if you can get a year or two in the NBA. Even if you miss out entirely on the NBA for being too old, you are probably ahead; if they don't want you now, you were unlikely to stick in the first place. NBA starter contracts are on par with NIL. G-League contracts, the most common destination for non-lottery picks, are less. Most NBA players never get past their starter contract.
One could also take this as an indication that:
- the current NIL numbers are silly.
- a player who has a very low chance of ever making the 1st round of the NBA draft should optimize for NIL and their future non-nba career vs. basketball development.
I'm the first to point out when the board is in hysterics over nothing, but I mean if we're really going to be "fair" here.....we literally had an insider flat out say that Brad considers the damage done already w/r/t to Morez and transferring out.
The board flipping out about that seems low on the usual histrionics scale.
You had me until this. Kyle Filipowski, 2nd round pick, signed a rookie deal worth $3 million a year for 4 years. Tyler Kolek is making around $2.25 million a year, on a 4 year deal. That's high end, like top 1% of NIL deals type stuff. Even Kevin McCullar Jr., who was the last NCAA player taken in the draft, got a 1-yr 2-way deal at around $575k. That's not what top-end NIL guys are making, but I bet you there are guys starting on even the best NCAA teams who aren't getting that.
madillini4
Ozamataz Buckshank
- Millywaukee
He might he might not. I don’t think anything is set in stone on anyone’s side. We might lose guys who we thought were gonna stay no matter what. It’s just the world we live in right now in CBB and CFB now. I don’t think anything is certain until after the season.
This might sound hysterical, but that's not a ringing endorsement that Morez likes it here. *shrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrug*
I agree that Filipowski got 4yr, $12M deal. I don't know how. Maybe it is the 120% of the draft position, with balanced pay across the contract vs. the typical low pay the first two years, going up significantly the last year. Tyler got $2.1M, rising by 100k/year. These are early second round picks and the exceptional contracts drew attention. A more common data point: The player drafted one position after Filipowski got $7.9M for 4 years; 1.15M for the first year, and ballooning if they make year 4 (so, by the odds, unlikely to ever be paid). None of these contracts are guaranteed past the 2nd year.
So I guess I should amend my prior comment to say "or unless you get, in writing, a Filipowski style deal." The balanced contract vs. the standard path really alters the math.
Me at the top of the list. Don't want to lose Morez next year, but In Brad We Trust.
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I'd bet even $1.15 million is far beyond what most players are getting in NIL.
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