Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Illwinsagain
Big Jack said:
I had asked you this before as well and I get it. Hard to judge a kid just watching a shoot around before the game. Seems to have a decent shot and obviously has the height to play. We have the scholarships to waste, I hope he stays works on his body and proves us all wrong. I wanna see the kid become a Warren Carter Chris Gandy and blossom in year 3-4. He is the kind of culture kid we need and I will root for him to get there.
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Plus, not everyone is here for just the basketball. He may really want the UI degree, assuming his future is not in the upper echelons of professional basketball.
 
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Illwinsagain
OrangeKrush1981 said:
It's a weird-looking situation with Ty Rogers. Since April, I was puzzled as to how the rebuilt roster would work, and by the end of the summer, Ty seems to have decided it didn't work for him.

All I know is that players and coaches do not share what sort of conversations led to decisions like the one made by Ty. It is impossible to know what was said, what the thinking was. Describing it as "Ty's decision" could be 100% accurate and simultaneously entirely misleading. So I am troubled by the redshirt decision, but have not a clue how it arose. I consequently don't blame either Ty or Underwood.
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Also, considering that he was the "face of the team" at the B1G press conference, I really do believe it was his decision.
 
#132      
philstan
EyeoftheIllini said:
You are right, he made a personal decision, and I’ve said on here that I don’t blame him for making a personal decision. He has to do what he thinks is best for him. I also don’t believe he is sitting out “to work and get better” to come back to Illinois and have a better role next year. He didn’t like the role laid out for him and rather than compete to expand that role he’s taking the year off. That’s not the kind of player I’d be throwing a lucrative deal at.

You say “you don’t have to question how hard he will play.” I would have agreed with that wholeheartedly after last season. But now? I can’t say with any confidence that should he return next year because he has been promised 30 minutes a game and then as noncon season rolls on his minutes are reduced that he’ll work harder to re-expand his role. Now I’m not saying that he’d walk away mid-season next year if that happened. But I’m no where certain he’d show leadership and be a good “culture guy” if that happened. His recent history when faced with a role he doesn’t think is enough doesn’t exactly support that assumption. Again, I don’t think we’ll ever find out because I’d be shocked if he comes back next year.
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One of my assumption of Ty's leadership/culture are rooted in that Underwood (or the staff) still go to him to host official visitors while he redshirts this season (stated on premium boards). I wouldn't think they would ask Ty to take on that role to promote the university and team if he doesn't continue to display those intangibles. At the end of the day, as you've mentioned, if Ty and the staff's expectation for minutes don't align he will be playing for another team next season (and I think that's the most likely outcome).
 
#135      
ChiTown
Indy Illini Fan said:
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That’s a stick up.
 
#138      
TyinLex
Ty’s culture, leadership, and basketball ability don’t have to be neatly packaged together—especially not in today’s NIL-driven landscape. He has to prioritize his own path while playing the long game.

Is he staying for the degree? Possibly.
Is he staying to develop and earn meaningful minutes next season? Possibly.
Is he staying to redshirt, grow, and eventually transfer? Possibly.

College basketball isn’t what it was when he was a high school recruit from Michigan. He knows he’s not going to be an offensive force or make an NBA roster, so why not take control of his own journey? In a system that’s constantly shifting, sometimes the best move is the one that breaks from the norm.
 
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grue2
SAELION said:
Hmm? Against Iowa Boswell as lead guard and KJ at the wing was explosive in the first half.
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Life interfered, and I wasn't able to watch the Iowa game. Did Iowa go over or under screens when Boswell had the ball? Did his defender drop to cover the lane, or keep someone in his face at the 3pt line?
 
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