Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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I remember browsing the web when I was growing up and people calling my parents house and getting knocked off the Moe Odum.
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with roster expansion to 15, Brooks is a prep I'd seriously consider (no clue if he'd be up for it though)
6'7 wing with real good length is the exact type of developmental player you want to take to fill out those spots. He would definitely need to be bought into the idea though like Jakstys though and come in expecting to redshirt and develop.

I think you could basically fill out roster spots 11-15 with guys like this with no real loss(even 10 guys aren't going to get serious minutes). Just bring in a in-state developmental kid that's bought in every year and redshirt so you would basically just grab one in every class for 5 years and always have 3 upper classman at a time that are bought into the culture(could just use it for spots 12-15 if you wanted to save a scholarship).

Worst case they transfer out, best case one or two develops into a role player.
 
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6'7 wing with real good length is the exact type of developmental player you want to take to fill out those spots. He would definitely need to be bought into the idea though like Jakstys though and come in expecting to redshirt and develop.

I think you could basically fill out roster spots 11-15 with guys like this with no real loss(even 10 guys aren't going to get serious minutes). Just bring in a in-state developmental kid that's bought in every year and redshirt so you would basically just grab one in every class for 5 years and always have 3 upper classman at a time that are bought into the culture(could just use it for spots 12-15 if you wanted to save a scholarship).

Worst case they transfer out, best case one or two develops into a role player.

role player is not the best case, but definitely the most probable. good post (IOW, I concur).

a year practicing with the team and Fletch-ing, you might have something there. for the 11-15 guys, it's effectively a 1 year audition. that's great value to staff
 
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role player is not the best case, but definitely the most probable. good post (IOW, I concur).

a year practicing with the team and Fletch-ing, you might have something there. for the 11-15 guys, it's effectively a 1 year audition. that's great value to staff
Yeah I guess best case is you actually get a guy that is a legitimate starter. Mid majors have been full of under recruited Chicago area kids that become difference makers.

DJ Cooper got John Groce the Illinois job, Donte Ingram at Loyola, Alec Peters at Valpo, Antonio Reeves at ISU before Kentucky, Jordan Caroline was a Champaign central kid with all kinds of Illinois ties before starring for Muss at Nevada, and so on. Max Strus was playing at Lewis.

Cooper actually exploded as a recruit late in high school so you might actually get in with some of these guys early and build those relationships that really help you.
 
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6'7 wing with real good length is the exact type of developmental player you want to take to fill out those spots. He would definitely need to be bought into the idea though like Jakstys though and come in expecting to redshirt and develop.

I think you could basically fill out roster spots 11-15 with guys like this with no real loss(even 10 guys aren't going to get serious minutes). Just bring in a in-state developmental kid that's bought in every year and redshirt so you would basically just grab one in every class for 5 years and always have 3 upper classman at a time that are bought into the culture(could just use it for spots 12-15 if you wanted to save a scholarship).

Worst case they transfer out, best case one or two develops into a role player.
Just play devils advocate, how would this work from an NIL perspective. Funds aren’t unlimited. Let’s say you split 100K or 200K between players 12-5. That’s 2.5-5% of a 4M budget, which might make the difference between landing the impact players at 1-7 and getting outbid.

And then there’s the chemistry aspect of it. Even if the player was bought in to a developmental role, if they are essentially getting a grad stipend (if that) while their teammates are getting 7 figures, could potentially cause some issues.

I do think it’s worth a try if the kids truly are bought in. But I’m just saying it’s not without its potential downsides either.
 
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Just play devils advocate, how would this work from an NIL perspective. Funds aren’t unlimited. Let’s say you split 100K or 200K between players 12-5. That’s 2.5-5% of a 4M budget, which might make the difference between landing the impact players at 1-7 and getting outbid.

And then there’s the chemistry aspect of it. Even if the player was bought in to a developmental role, if they are essentially getting a grad stipend (if that) while their teammates are getting 7 figures, could potentially cause some issues.

I do think it’s worth a try if the kids truly are bought in. But I’m just saying it’s not without its potential downsides either.
I don't really think these type of kids are getting any type of significant NIL money and you need to fill spots for practice purposes either way.

Jakstys is probably mostly just here on the scholarship free college ride. Maybe he's gets a grad stipend amount like you suggest but that's not going to truly make a difference.

We are supposedly paying Carey Booth like 200k to basically not play(we are literally paying Ty to not pay, Tim Anderson to not coach, and paid Skyy when he quit midseason)so I don't think there would be any issue spending 100k to fill out the bottom 5 spots on your roster to grab some developmental guys and practice bodies.
 
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My son looks like him and acts the same way, lol. I give him grief over it all the time.
 
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Transfer portal question. Found this on NCAA website:

Moving forward, the notification-of-transfer windows in basketball will be open for 30 days, starting the day after the conclusion of the second round of each NCAA Division I championship, when 91% of teams in both men's and women's basketball have concluded their season. For the 2024-25 academic year, the window will be open March 24-April 22 for men's basketball and March 25-April 23 for women's basketball..

Does this mean players can't transfer until that date or can't announce intentions until that date. I am guessing the first, but knowing the idiotic bureaucracy of the NCAA, who knows.

Either way, only 2 weeks max until the rumors run wild.
 
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I could blow up this thread and say that the guy who quit on the team right before the season isn't an EDG but I wouldn't do that :LOL::LOL: (best of luck to whatever is next for him)
 
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I should have used /s because I’m partially joking.

What a time in college sports when one of the most engaged players on our bench has been in the portal since the fall.
 
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Transfer portal question. Found this on NCAA website:

Moving forward, the notification-of-transfer windows in basketball will be open for 30 days, starting the day after the conclusion of the second round of each NCAA Division I championship, when 91% of teams in both men's and women's basketball have concluded their season. For the 2024-25 academic year, the window will be open March 24-April 22 for men's basketball and March 25-April 23 for women's basketball..

Does this mean players can't transfer until that date or can't announce intentions until that date. I am guessing the first, but knowing the idiotic bureaucracy of the NCAA, who knows.

Either way, only 2 weeks max until the rumors run wild.
I still think they should just put it at the end of the tourney. Let kids play in the NCAA and NIT without worrying about it(and coaches).

Then after the you can open it in early April until early May and have an off-season like NFL free agent/baseball winter meetings. You could make an event of it if you just waited a bit so it's not competing with your own tournament.
 
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6'7 wing with real good length is the exact type of developmental player you want to take to fill out those spots. He would definitely need to be bought into the idea though like Jakstys though and come in expecting to redshirt and develop.

I think you could basically fill out roster spots 11-15 with guys like this with no real loss(even 10 guys aren't going to get serious minutes). Just bring in a in-state developmental kid that's bought in every year and redshirt so you would basically just grab one in every class for 5 years and always have 3 upper classman at a time that are bought into the culture(could just use it for spots 12-15 if you wanted to save a scholarship).

Worst case they transfer out, best case one or two develops into a role player.
Brooks and Aleks Alston are the top unsigned in state players rn. We would have begging for both not too many years ago. Also think we'll be keeping a close eye on "feeder" schools ISU and Bradley for the next couple of years; both getting some good in state talent that we could be interested in when they get some experience.
 
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reported - Dan Hurley says 50% of his roster is considering the portal and has already picked their future school.
 
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Dan Hurley on 60 minutes…

“50% of my roster or more is at least considering going in the portal, if not already knows what school they’re going to,” Hurley said. “And in a couple of those cases they’ve already talked to the coaching staff at a future school and have an idea of what their NIL is gonna be there.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...uconn-basketball-transfer-portal/82223618007/

Some wondered why the Duke assistant coach is leaving for his new job before the season is over…because he needs to start recruiting immediately!
 
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Dan Hurley on 60 minutes…

“50% of my roster or more is at least considering going in the portal, if not already knows what school they’re going to,” Hurley said. “And in a couple of those cases they’ve already talked to the coaching staff at a future school and have an idea of what their NIL is gonna be there.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...uconn-basketball-transfer-portal/82223618007/

Some wondered why the Duke assistant coach is leaving for his new job before the season is over…because he needs to start recruiting immediately!
Feel so sorry for this coach.....not.
 
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Treysen Eaglestaff has gone portaling per Tipton. He has got to be getting a BAG from someone. Had 40 on Bama.

He's a high risk/reward guy. He can take insane volume and his FG% is poor. He's played 18 games since the January 1 and he's shot better than 37% in just 4 of those games. Doesn't provide much offensively outside of scoring, too. That said, he also dropped 50 last week. Can he raise his FG% as his scoring burden will go down on a better team? That's the (expensive) question.
 
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