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Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
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I'm getting to the point where I'm checking out of college sports altogether. This is worse than free agency in the pros, not knowing year-to-year who's on what team. I enjoy seeing players grow and get better. This isn't enjoyable.
Sounds like Brad needs to go to the Phil Jackson school of managing egos. Both players and staff from the sound of it.
Can this be true and also a lot of us be getting tired of Brad's (don't ban us Dan) !!!!?
This isn’t just about money … This whole thing started WAY before this week …
Morez has been committed since he was freaking 16 basically … He gets here and you freaking start Ben Hum Brick House over him ???? UNACCEPTABLE …
It’s not like we’re talking about Domask here … Ben brings absolutely nothing to the table … He’s not a Big Ten player … Yet Brad continued to trot him out there … DUMB …
This crap is on Brad …
It helps to have a staff players trust and respect
Dude is staying, I guess we just have to accept it.I was hoping this would be done while I was traveling this week … Guess not …
There are a LOT of influential people that are getting to that point …
Especially when they get told … Well we think Bam will be back but that might be it …
That ain’t what they want to hear …
Correct me if I’m wrong here but it seems like we are officially getting lapped in the NIL era. Feel like we were ahead of the curve early and now we just don’t have the money to compete. Feels like the true competitive championship window for us has closed
And Bos right? Right???
Why even recruit high school players anymore? Let's just grab Juniors and Seniors from the portal and offer bags of money to players from other teams to transfer or portal to us.
I 100% said Fire Brad in frustration to losing a hard working beloved player who was committed two years early. I fully understand the NIL world we live in. Sucks to lose him, but I'm still frustrated at the lack of continuity in our program which seems to be an annual thing, not just with our program. I'm sure we will find someone suitable to replace him and I wish Morez nothing but the best.
This! I would add that the nepotism BS has to be addressed NOW!!
better tell ben hes not welcome to spend his 6th year here
So most if not all of the team doesn't like Tyler? And Whitman is fine with this and fine with keeping Hamer on staff? At what point is this ship gonna start sinking?
ChiefGritty
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They did lose Mason Gillis to be fair, but that's a program that has been constructed to a very specific identity and is very careful and thorough about who they bring into the program in the first place and everything about the way they operate is designed around a revolving pattern of growth.
Brad Underwood has embraced a very different philosophy. Speed dating. Juco.
Brad Underwood has been very successful at that, and I have every confidence he will continue to be. And I think he should be judged solely on results.
This is the sport's fault. This is the powers that be's fault. They've paved paradise and put up a parking lot, don't blame BU for fighting in it, to mangle the metaphor.
Curbelo Fanboy
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NCAA hoops is literally dying in front of our eyes. It is pointless to follow except for about 2 weeks in March. No blame to players for getting the bag but interest in a sport that changes entire rosters each year will fall off a cliff in the long run.
And Brad seems to be among the worst at keeping any kind of year to year continuity.
And Brad seems to be among the worst at keeping any kind of year to year continuity.
No offense to Purdue's role players but they aren't all that talented....
They have really good top end players....Kaufman-Renn, Edey, Smith
Past that they don't have any studs that are getting shopped around in the portal like Illinois does.
Illinois goes and gets guys that have tons of upside instead of just a solid role player. The role player NIL deals are probably very similar across the board compared to the top end guys who you see a wide aray of NIL being thrown their way
As good a time to throw out that Brad needs a reality check on who "coordinates" the offense and defense. Tyler and Hamer will be the downfall of Brad if he does not wake the hell up.Couldn’t have said it better myself my friend …
Man, I'm not one to argue with insiders... but that's a crap excuse.
This isn't 100% apples to apples because of Edey and it seems like Morez was a bit more developed than TKR as a freshman, but TKR was a top 50 recruit and played 11 mpg as a freshman and 17 mpg as a sophomore and he didn't leave Purdue. Then he averaged 30 mpg this year.
It seems like Morez was a year ahead of TKR. 17 mpg as a freshman and looking at 30 mpg next year.
This isn't 100% apples to apples because of Edey and it seems like Morez was a bit more developed than TKR as a freshman, but TKR was a top 50 recruit and played 11 mpg as a freshman and 17 mpg as a sophomore and he didn't leave Purdue. Then he averaged 30 mpg this year.
It seems like Morez was a year ahead of TKR. 17 mpg as a freshman and looking at 30 mpg next year.
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This is 100% correct. Would immediately fix all of these problems. The fact of the matter is, this is a professional league now with no commissioner, no collective bargaining, and therefore no rules. The NCAA hardly bears any responsibility for any of it. They didn't get in front of the issue and make it a truly NIL-based operation and now schools are just paying people. They might blame the settlements. They might blame mass media or the coaches or the fans for demanding change. But it was on them to put a structure in place that could work, and they've failed.
Accurate.
TKR was a top 50 recruit who played 11mpg as a freshman and 17 mpg as a sophomore and they retained him.
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