Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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NCAA athletics has become a joke, actually it has always been a joke. I'm all for paying NIL but there has to limits on transfers and some sort of salary cap (if possible). There is no accountability or loyalty, from players to coaches, to a program/university. They are all mercenaries who will go to the highest bidder. If this is not fixed it will be the downfall of college athletics.

With that being said.........I like Brad but how is it that guys like Izzo and Painter can keep their programs in tact and Brad's falls apart every off season. Then he builds it back up to only fall apart again. This is not sustainable......there is no Every Day Guys......that's a joke.
Isn’t the issue that there is no minor leagues like baseball..
 
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This is gonna sound like blasphemy against the prevailing narrative against Ben on this board.

Here's the uncomfortable fact: Brad didn't take minutes from Ben and give it to Morez because Morez just wasn't good enough.

Sure Morez is more athletic, a much better rebounder and overall has a higher ceiling than Ben.

And yes Ben has a lot of limitations and underperformed his expectation, especially shooting wise.

But people seem to have a revisionist view regarding how good Morez's defense was vs. Ben's. The fact is, despite all his flaws Ben was actually less lost on defense than Morez was and was just less foul prone (hence was able to be a body on the floor for longer), for a bug chunk of the season.
I don't think you are correct about this, although maybe I am the one who is wrong.

But here goes with PART of my argument: Morez is a an asset. He had future value. Ben had little value this year or in future.
 
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They give their guys some sort of personality test. Then they recruit kids that score high for commitment and loyalty. Something like that.

We recruit a different type of player. There is NO ONE on Purdues roster that I want on our roster. Frankly, they can keep their guys because that is the best offer they can get. 4 star guys have more options then 3 star guys. John Groce's players would not have joined the portal, either.

Just like Humrichous would love to come back...
 
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I think Morez is more than a rim runner and rebounder too, along the lines that I've posted here repeatedly (jump hooks, elbow jumpers). So do others. If he left because he felt the plan for his development in CU was inadequate, I am going to be even more disappointed in our coaching staff.
Do you think Kofi or Edey who were all Americans strictly from their work in the paint are a bad model to follow for development? Yes , Morez isn’t the same as either of those guys, but for him to say “he doesn’t want to end up like Kofi” rubs me the wrong way when in reality, he likely won’t end up even 50% of the player Kofi was.

Players can 100% grow their game. However, if you were Brad and Boswell came to your office asking to become a strictly catch and shoot player and take 7 3pa a game because the nba scouts want to see his % go up on high volume, are you going oblige just because you want to keep him?
 
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I mean if you look at Ben until January, there was no reason for Morez to play over him? Revisionist history is crazy here. The turning point was the MSU game and after that Morez got nearly 25 mpg average
Talk about revisionist history….try your math again.
Not even close to averaging 25 mpg
 
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In this they can. There are teams still playing right now that shows that you can.
Some pretty good coaches who seem to produce (in most years) year after year. Most of the programs remaining have coaches and programs that I believe most of the top athletes would rather play for than BU.
 
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If any non shooting big comes to Illinois and proceeds to say they don’t want to end up like Kofi, they don’t belong on Illinois in the first place.

It’s funny you complain about the 3s because Morez is leaving because he wants to shoot the ball as well 🤣
 
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I don't think you are correct about this, although maybe I am the one who is wrong.

But here goes with PART of my argument: Morez is a an asset. He had future value. Ben had little value this year or in future.
I get what you're saying but if people are gonna pine for the good ole days of freshmen sticking with the process that includes the expectation of spending the first year developing more than playing.
 
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One hesitates to ask, but: what kind of nuts? Peanuts, cashews or walnuts?

After that snarky note, how about this: we need to win a lot more games. Underwood is struggling to reach the level he repeatedly says he wants to reach: championships. Freshman, seniors, whatever. Just win. That might take more than a season, I think.
We won a championship 12 months ago lol.
 
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College football is a different animal. 105 players. Only have to coddle one - the QB. And have multiple backups at every position, including QB. College football is fine. Playoffs make it even better. And we have Coach T-Bar. All is well.
 
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Have you guys read what Kedrick is putting out there. If I wasn’t an idiot with tech I could put it on here . Lots of quotes from dad. Did not like how Tyler was running the offense among other things. Was not happy with playing time at the end of the year
 
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he will make twice what we were going to give him in the portal for a team that will play him what he deserves from Day 1
If he's offered 1.8M(reportedly) and wants to play more on the perimeter......see ya. He was the ONLY player that thrived in the paint for us. We need him to be that guy and not the guy who wants to face up for 18-20 feet. That was our issue last year. What Morez wants and what we need are two different things and that's ok. Morez, hope you aren't being lied to and Brad.....go get a big that wants to play defense, be nasty and block shots.
 
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According to Morez himself, he is leaving because he is “more than a rim runner and rebounder and wants to get more than just that” he also said he didn’t want to end up like Kofi. Essentially sounds like he think of himself much higher than anyone else does
Someone should tell Morez Paul Silas made a career playing defense, grabbing rebounds, especially offensive rebonds, and shooting nothing but close in shots and put backs.
 
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