Definitely a good point and as @Indy Illini Fan said, obviously the top 20 recruits can be productive for a year. The rest will most likely be practice players until upperclassman or they transfer.
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This is an all-time Loyalty take! LOL!
In all seriousness, I kind of hear what you're saying. I would say Booth is more athletic, but I don't think he's more talented than Storr simply b/c Storr has done it at a high level and Booth can't even sniff more than mop-up PT. I, too, have concerns with Storr, but hard to pass a guy who just a year ago was one of the top tier transfers in the portal for a reason.
I think it's closer to Tre White. You take a cheap flyer and sit him if it doesn't work out.
In 22 if you don't miss on RJ, Epps, Clark, & Podz with CHawk being immature then Mayers not as frustrating as the 3rd/4th option. Even then he was 3rd team b10 and won us more games than he lost us.
robertgoulet
IL Board Resident Crooner
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You're now recruiting HS players for the relationship, not for the player initially (unless they're Top 30 types). You want the relationship to have been there so when they're ready to transfer after their freshman or sophomore year you have an in. Let college 1 do the prep work and work out the growing pains, you get the benefit.
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ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Booth (true frosh at Notre Dame): 19.1 MPG (19 starts), 6.4 PPG, 4.3 RPG, 0.5 APG, 28 Blk+Stl, 1.5 Win Shares
Storr (junior NIL millionaire at KU): 15.7 MPG (4 starts), 6.1 PPG, 1.7 RPG, 0.7 APG, 15 Blk+Stl, 0.7 Win Shares
During the Big Ten tourney 2 years ago... Best player in the tourney was clearly TJ... and the 2nd best player was Storr.. You're not even necessarily betting on potential, as he has shown he CAN do it. To me, it's up to the coaches and the scheme to put him in a position to succeed.
It’s not impossible that either of them ever even touch the floor for the Illini
I think having no use for Storr is fine, but don't muddy the argument with this silly hill you're dying on. Booth has potential, not proven talent. Storr has more proven talent, flawed though it may be.
Use the freshman stats against each other if you want and Storr looks better. It doesn't make Storr All B10 or even a fit for the Illini this year, but let's not pretend he's comparable to a demonstrably worse player.
Or you could do Booth at Illinois and Storr at Wisconsin, but that also be completely disingenuous.
Also, Storr was pretty incredible around the rim his first go around. He is not just a jump shooter.
Tophe
- Middle TN
Irritable Brad Syndrome?
All I can say about it, statistics aside. Storr showed all big10 conference athleticism and basketball skill at Wisconsin and was rewarded accordingly. Booth showed promise while at ND but showed nothing but junior high level play here.
Will Riley was a 5-star, top 20 recruit.
Lee and Wagler are ranked #94 and #145 in the 247 composite.
I don't agree with the sentiment that HS recruiting is pointless, but I don't think you shouldnt be expecting an immediate impact from guys like Lee and Wagler. They are likely aware of that.
Booth (Sophomore at IL): 5.1 MPG, (0 starts), 1.2 PPG, 0.0 APG, 1.0 RPG
Storr (Freshman at SJU): 21.1 MPG (17 starts); 8,8 PPG, 0.8 APG, 1.9 RPG
Storr (Sophomore at WI): 28.8 MPG (36 starts), 16.6 PPG, 0.9 APG, 3.9 RPB
Come on bro...at least be intellectually honest about it.
Storr (Freshman at SJU): 21.1 MPG (17 starts); 8,8 PPG, 0.8 APG, 1.9 RPG
Storr (Sophomore at WI): 28.8 MPG (36 starts), 16.6 PPG, 0.9 APG, 3.9 RPB
Come on bro...at least be intellectually honest about it.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
My friend I am not the one muddying the argument.
"Booth is a better player than Storr" is an argument no one made.
The point is twofold:
1. Storr on a good day is one-dimensional and overrated and he had few if any good days in his most recent season which was really, really a disaster.
2. Storr is not still scratching the surface of some ocean of talent. That Wisconsin season was the best you're ever going to get from this limited one-dimensional player, and the superficial point scoring numbers overstate how much he actually impacted winning on that team.
He's heading for his ninth school in nine years, he hasn't changed as a player at all, and all the value you can extract from him is by putting the ball in his hands and letting him chase buckets. He has no use in a cheapo bit part role, and in a bigger role we have a deluge of better options who will raise the level of the team much more.
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lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
Mike LaTulip says it best:
Whether or not a player is take is completely dependent upon the role that player is brought in for.
If you bring in Wisconsin Storr, a low efficiency chucker, probably not the best take.
If you bring in Storr to be an Illinois Tre White, a guy who can slash to the rim and get out in transition, probably a good take.
Whether or not a player is take is completely dependent upon the role that player is brought in for.
If you bring in Wisconsin Storr, a low efficiency chucker, probably not the best take.
If you bring in Storr to be an Illinois Tre White, a guy who can slash to the rim and get out in transition, probably a good take.
Besides for Duke, is the ACC even D1 caliber at this point?
Get instant impact guys or stash some system guys who want to develop at D1 facilities. Kids in that 40-80 range are probably going to Mid Majors to start and get paid when they transfer out.
McKneely from UVA to Louisville... The stable of guards there is just ridiculous
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