Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
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I wouldn't mind losing Jake and Ty for Dozic. At the end you want the most talented roster.
Vaaks
Blackwell - Coleman
Stojakovic - Morillo
Mirkovic - Dozic
Tomi - Z
Pretty decent 9 deep.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
I think this is where our two views converge, this is exactly right.
But a team without Humrichous and Boswell (different players, but both very much half court executors) and more Coleman, a bigger emphasis on Stojakovic and hypothetically Blackwell, we're going to find more of those favorable matchups in quick-hitters.
People are reacting as if I'm saying we're going to be worse, which I'm not, not exactly. What are the attributes that IMPROVE next year? Beyond the more possessions equals more fouls thing, it's something elemental to college basketball that everyone forgets about in portal world: the team will be older and have more experience playing together. We can do more stuff, practice can get more detailed, the playbook can be longer.
That not being how Michigan did it doesn't mean that's not a championship recipe. Basketball remains basketball.
Smooth. However, he will need to alter his form a bit in the B1G - he starts his shooting motion from below his waist. B1G defenders would have a field day on strips and blocks if he isnt quicker getting the ball up.
100% disagree.
If getting Dozic means we're losing any of Stojakovic, Mirkovic, Tomi, Z, or Jake -- I'd pass.
What makes you take him over Jake Davis? Somebody whose constantly proven himself as a terrific role player.
Also, Pepperdine was absolutely awful this year. They finished 9-23 and last in the WCC.
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Way different times. Above-board legal payments vs. under-the-table stuff has leveled the playing field for a school like the U of I. I am grateful to Bruce Weber for taking the Illini the furthest they've ever been, even with someone else's recruits, however those recruits happened to end up here. I also thought it was time for a change. But there were reasons the Illini did not cash in on that run, and it wasn't solely because of Weber.
sacraig
- The desert
To be fair, no one suggested taking all of Pepperdine's team in the Portal. Just the guy who averaged 11.3 pts on an awful team like that.
Sure, but that's basically my point. He averaged 11.3 points ON AN AWFUL TEAM. Scoring on an awful team does not suggest you're a winning player.
The original comment wanted Dozic at the expense of losing Jake and Ty Rodgers.
Ty can't shoot, so I could see prioritizing our offensive philosophy (plus it's been indicated here he's about to enter).
I don't think he is a better player than Jake Davis in any regard.
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Agreed. Cruz Davis (Hofstra) is a dawg. I really don't know his "price point" (nor do I know that for Blackwell either). But I wouldn't take Cruz over Blackwell for the same reason; but I think that Blackwell would be the better "fit" for this Illinois team and its style of offense. Plus, I like that Blackwell has proved himself at Wisconsin in the Big Ten.
Ayo averaged about 14 points on a 12-21 Illinois, does that make him a losing player
We got Jake when Mercer finished 16-17 and 8th in the Southern.
To be clear though, I’d like to keep Jake
Noblesville Illini
- Nappanee, IN
Injuries. Need 10 or 11
Wow, this is crazy. Granted I haven't been on here for as long as many, but I can't remember a time when insiders were this active and this unanimously positive about our outlook for next season. Seems like there's a good chance that "NC or bust" will be floating around by the end of the week...
Regardless of ability, Jake Davis is a national treasure and EDG. We shouldn't be pushing out players from a F4 roster who have shown their commitment to this program just to hopefully "upgrade."
altgeld88
- Arlington, Virginia
Weber + NIL Bag would have been interesting, and much different.
Noblesville Illini
- Nappanee, IN
Can we?
wettsten
- Chicago
ayo averaged 13.8 as a freshman on a team that went 12-21. was he not a winning player?
edit: camo beat me to it
Yes, but now he's proven himself as a quality, quality role player on a final 4 team.
So, we should not be pushing him out the door in hopes that this guy from Pepperdine would be an upgrade (because he likely won't be).
Completely different scenario. Again, the original comment was not about deciding whether he's a winning player, and whether that should determine us taking him. It was about wanting Davis out the door to bring him in.
In that case, it makes no sense, IMO.
Our AD today also helps a lot. Our previous ADs would not have done well in this environment. Without a good AD it is hard for a coach to have sustained success
illinoisgrad1990
- Bloomington, IL
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