Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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RIP_Chief_2003
Battle89 said:
80% of the fighting here would disappear if a responder with an issue on a prior post called out the actual poster, rather than making broad statements. But there has been a whole lot of yelling, "you people need help", "you guys are miserable", etc. All that does is fan the flames because multiple people feel attacked.

And as to people "just going away"...as long as it is civil, a message board is the place for discourse and differing opinions, and people should be allowed to say them. I would prefer not to have just an echo chamber here.

Thanks as always to the insiders for their notes here, and to Brad & Co for the wonderful program they have built. Looking forward to our summer depth piece adds, the growth of our returnees, and good things from our highly-ranked recruits.

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aaeismacgychel
ChiefGritty said:
Is 65% annual inflation sustainable? Let's ask this Argentine economist!
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It is until it isn't. I said this a couple seasons ago, but I think college sports is on a similar path to how the NHL was pre-salary cap in the 90s and early 00s, where salary inflation was a runaway train until it reached that critical point >$7mil/yr for star players that had the league on the verge of bankruptcy. We're not there yet, but we are getting closer. I'd say another 2 years before we start seeing the system reach a full on breaking point for most schools.
 
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USAFILLINI
If you came to this board expecting there to never be a differing opinion, you definitely came to the wrong place. Some days I enjoy the hot takes, other days I just scroll until I see IndyIllini or FL post. A mix of both is what makes this board great IMO.

Funny note that’s somewhat related. At the Final Four, a UConn Huskies fan behind me heard the I-L-L chants and couldn’t figure out what we were saying. After I explained it, she said, “It sounds a lot like a cult.” Thinking about this board, I laughed a little and said, you have no idea. But honestly, I wouldn’t have it any other way, give me a rabid Illini fan over the bandwagon Duke and Michigan fans all day.
 
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Hessel Blvd
Is 65% annual inflation sustainable? Let's ask this Argentine economist!
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eh, money is a construct. NIL will continue to bubble until enough people are like "wait, this isn't real". Like everything else involving money in the world.
 
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2qtslow
It is until it isn't. I said this a couple seasons ago, but I think college sports is on a similar path to how the NHL was pre-salary cap in the 90s and early 00s, where salary inflation was a runaway train until it reached that critical point >$7mil/yr for star players that had the league on the verge of bankruptcy. We're not there yet, but we are getting closer. I'd say another 2 years before we start seeing the system reach a full on breaking point for most schools.
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Yes, and Duke is the first basketball team to file for Chapter 11 reorganization.
 
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STLini25
IlliniNash said:
Yeah but if Coleman provides .75 of what Wagler provided it will be more than enough. Maybe even a lower percentage.
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It’s true that QC providing 75% of Wagler is more than enough but it is very unlikely QC provides 75% of Wagler. Thats 13 points, 4 rebounds and 3 assists.

Half of Wagler would be a good season for a freshman. 9 points, 3 rebounds and 2 assists.
 
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Det_Illini_fan
USAFILLINI said:
Funny note that’s somewhat related. At the Final Four, a UConn Huskies fan behind me heard the I-L-L chants and couldn’t figure out what we were saying. After I explained it, she said, “It sounds a lot like a cult.” Thinking about this board, I laughed a little and said, you have no idea. But honestly, I wouldn’t have it any other way, give me a rabid Illini fan over the bandwagon Duke and Michigan fans all day.
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Out of curiosity, did they think it was strange we have a chant? Or that there’s an I-N-I response to it?

I now live deep in Wolverine territory, and what’s weird to me is it’s just “Go Blue!” No response or anything. So during games, or calling out to other fans you shout “Go Blue!!” And just … “ahhh yeah woo!” back. Weak af chant if you ask me. At least little bro has “Go Green!” - “Go White!”
 
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sacraig
Fly Illini Fly! said:
Well… you don’t KNOW that. Florida will get back Condon, Fland, Klavzar… and COULD get or retain Milan M / Hugh / Chinyelu / or even Christian Anderson.

Michigan already has McKinney and Cadeau back… and got McCoy… and COULD get or retain Juke Harris / Morez / Mara.

Those two are definitely candidates.

I’m not sure anybody thought Arizona and Michigan will be super teams last offseason either. We know during the season.
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We get back Ivisic, Ivisic, Mirkovic, Stojakovic, and Davis and add Vaaks and Coleman. We are very much in that conversation as well.
 
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LvilleILL1 said:
People in here need to understand that the talent across college basketball next year is not going to be the same as this year. There is not going to be an Arizona or Michigan like superteam, the transfers aren't as good overall, and the recruits aren't as high end compared to last year in terms of the elites.

Illinois has one of the four or five best rosters is the country. Could they push and add another stud? Sure, but it's not that easy. There are agents and other factors involved with that. I still stand by my thinking that they add someone over the next few months.

There are a ton of teams that have half a roster filled out with not a lot of options left, including blue bloods. It's okay to want more, but we are set to contend for a national championship next year. Have some faith in the evaluations that the staff made in Coleman and Morillo.
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CoalCity
AceRothstein said:
You evidently didn’t get the marching orders. Just last week, we all loved Blackwell and considered him critical to putting us over the top. But now we don’t need him and will be champs without him because… uh… we just will, OK!?

Don’t question it; just fall in line, comrade. The edict hath been decreed from on high, and dissenting opinions have no refuge here.
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lstewart53x3
Aillini32 said:
Not sure why this needs spelled out, but Coleman is going to be relied upon to be one the lead ball handlers if not PG from the jump, whereas McCoy will be off the ball or a secondary creator. Completely different scenarios. I think Coleman should be completely fine as the 4th or 5th option on the team, it’s whether he can be a lead guard in crunch time as a true freshman that has people like myself nervous
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This is one of the most confident incorrect posts I’ve seen on this board. Vaaks will be our lead guard. The staff sees Vaaks as the Keaton replacement. So no, Coleman will not be asked to be our pg from the jump or be a lead guard in crunch time.
 
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March2TheArch
Duke is always in there as well. They gain more top talent every year than we've had at our program over its entirety.
UConn will likely be there no matter who's on their team.
One random team will be there as well.

I dont think our more glass is half empty fans are worried much about being out of the top ten nor this being a good team. It's a higher floor team. They are worried we haven't been able to do enough to leap forward and more or less are taking the same team back. That worry was amplified by the coaches and insiders here when talking about how much we needed another top tier guy and how much we were willing to pay a guy who would have been our best player. The name on that jersey wasn't as important as the actions the coaches were taking.

Now whatever the reasons are it didn't work out; Blackwell wanted an NBA tryout this year, Coleman and or Vaaks were going to walk, etc......it doesn't change the initial calculus that the coaches believed we were missing something. It was less about depth and more about that 1 more top piece.

Pointing out the same thing the coaches were pointing out doesn't make you a doomer. We are taking a lot of talent into next year, especially by recent decade Illinois team standards. So there is a reason to be happy. However we aren't playing those Illini teams for a championship. We are playing other teams that appear to have more talent. Its not a doomer stance in a season where we retained everyone we wanted to ask if we did enough to advance further than last year and be better than the other teams this year.

The April 26 Champions were created in April 25. Will we be able to say the Illini 27 champs were created over the last week in 26.
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