Ty wanted to be a starter and more a focal point of the team which he definitely wasn't going to get here. Bet he proves he can be that this year and gets his bag for a higher major tourney contender for his last season.
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Joel Goodson
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Ty's #1 priority, by far, is tick. and he wasn't going to get a sufficient amount with Illinois
Yes, he can rebound, but he's a 6'6 PF with some guard skills and it seems pretty clear that Ty is not enough of a defender/ rebounder to justify having a dude who can't shoot.
Ending up at a mid major where he will get a chance to get a bunch of touches and figure out his shot is a way better move for him than being our 8/9th guy whose minutes will only come when our highest paid player is on the bench or we 'need a spark'.
Everyone is better off in this deal and you have to trust the staff.
Well we’re gonna have to find that 9th man somewhere.
IMO that’s a gamble. Both guys are ranked much lower than where Lee was ranked.
Counting on either to come in and be a functioning role player will hurt if it doesn’t pay off. Ideally you’d want your 9th man capable of playing a 5-10min role.
O/U 0.5 adds rest of the offseason ?
My guess would be under. It's just so late in the process.
If we do add, there's no guarantee that it's an upgrade from Brown and Zens. One of those two is gonna have a rotation spot (as it currently stands).
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Joel Goodson
- it's all ball bearings, nowadays
take the over. 1 add
Keaton was ranked much lower than Lee. I'm not say either will be remotely as good as Keaton. Just that rankings don't mean as much as many think, especially when you get past the top 20 or so guys. People latch on to the rankings like they are gospel and they clearly aren't.
FWIW I've love to add another guy if it's a good fit. Another capable ball-handler and/or a tough rebounding PF would be nice. But it's going to be hard to convince someone to join knowing they're our 8 or 9 guy in the rotation.
Joel Goodson
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band camp
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Do you think maybe Ty or Lee wanted more a more significant role?
This isnt a fantasy team.
Tevo
- Wilmette, IL
I mean, there's probably world where Ty averages 12-8-5 with a couple steals a game, and makes Boise State very happy. His skill set doesn't fit within what Illinois runs on offense, but he could still have a very productive season. Will be interesting to see what position Boise has in mind for him.
What we want is great and I'm sure they both appreciate the fans for caring. That said, they want to start, play 30+ minutes and be major contributors, not play specific roles. With us, Ty would have been a guy who played a very specific role, but he wouldn't start or wouldn't finish a game.
With Boise State, I'm sure he'll get to do both. I'm sure he had his option to stay, at a price with a specific role.
I think Ty could have easily been in line for first perimeter player off the bench over Morillo or Davis.
He stuck around last season for a similar role if you expected Petrovic, Boswell, and Stojakovic to start preseason.
I get wanting to play but Ty seems like a guy that wants to win and I think being a good role player on a final four team might be more fun than playing for Boise State.
Keep in mind this kid started as a sophomore on an elite 8 team and has been around for 2 more years.
RabidDawgClassic
- Los Angeles, CA
Ty needed to use this year (and next year, if 5 for 5 is finalized) to maximize his earning potential. He wasn’t going to get the amount of money for the role he would be expected to play at Illinois. He needed to get his bag now.
lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
Brad: Offers Ty a complimentary role off the bench.
Ty: Chooses to decline in favor of a starting role.
He made his choice. He wanted a larger role and transferred to get it.
I don’t think so
I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that the staff has a better idea of the talent levels than you do.
This is where you're missing the boat. College sports is no longer solely about fun. It's about making money with the goal of making more.
I'm not sure how much Ty is making, but if he's making "just" $500,000 more.....isn't cashing that check + a starter's role more appealing? If he has a great year in a bigger role, that earning potential for his final year will double, if not triple.
That's fun.
Do you think Duke prefers to be in this past year's ACC or the 2019 ACC?
What "pushes us to greatness" is winning games. If every team is just as good as us, that lessens our win total.
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In some ways, it's similar to why we hoped the 5 for 5 didn't pass. There would be more teams competing for a national championship that are just as good, if not better than us.
Tevo
- Wilmette, IL
I'm sure Ty wants to have fun, but it's also fun playing a lot and feeling like a major contributor to your team. If he wants to make some money, Illinois wasn't the place to be. And if wants to make even more next year, let alone professionally after that, he needs to show what he can do in games with extended minutes. Watching his highlight video above, I started wonder if he couldn't find a Ben Simmons Lite role somewhere. Of course, Simmons got 19-12-5 for a Power conference school! But 2/3rds of that seems reasonable at Boise, and maybe again for a P4 school in Y5.
I really like Ty, he can do things that are really big in terms of helping a team win basketball games, but it would be crazy for the staff to tell a top 50 kid that they love and think is going to be really good to sit on the bench for someone who hasn't been healthy or played basketball in over two years coming off a major injury (which his biggest skill set was reliant on his athletic ability).
Many people keep saying Ty can’t shoot? We knew he couldn’t before, but do any of the insiders have any insight into his development? Did he get better? Just curious. Even if he did, considering the level of recruits we are now pulling in, he was still behind the 8 ball.
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