Iowa, Iowa State investigating athletes gambling

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Confession of a crime hardly never completely commutes a consequence. Now, if he starts giving up other names, info, etc......
 
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Confession of a crime hardly never completely commutes a consequence. Now, if he starts giving up other names, info, etc......
To get any break he should rat out others so they can clean house. A clever approach would be to say we have some snitches interested in saving their careers. Come forward in the next 24 hours and accept a three game suspension. Don’t come forward and if confirmed you’re among the betters, you’re off the team. Seems fair and likely pretty effective in a very short time.

Instead it’s up to the team and NCAA TO ”Catch us if you can”, followed by no punishment if you just confess when confronted. Pretty lame effort with no downside for betting and no incentive to come clean. Worst case is you get caught, confess, and then maybe even adopt a new alias to pick up where you left off. Why not? Nothing to lose.
 
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“The NCAA revised its gambling policy this summer to eliminate full-season or permanent suspensions for violations other than match-fixing, providing inside information to gambling interests and athletes wagering on their own games or on those involving teams in other sports at their school.”

What exactly is there to appeal?
Seems pretty clear and they just got done reviewing and revising it.
The reason is you most likely have insider information into other programs at your school.
 
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Ferentz told reporters they will appeal the NCAA’S decision. His rationale is the guy didn’t deny doing it. Pretty lame reasoning. I got caught but didn’t deny it. Building character without consequences.
I’ve never had much of an opinion about Ferentz, but some of his comments in that article are changing that. First he is lamenting the fact that it is only Iowa and Iowa State players being targeted. Have to love someone in a position of authority falling back on “why you picking on us” and “others are doing it too.”

And then the whole last paragraph. I’m sorry, but the whole everyone else in their world is doing it rationale just doesn’t cut it. And his “apparently” this is what these gambling apps do, just makes him look stupid or completely out of touch. Maybe if the head of a major sports program who is likely receiving ongoing training/communication on sports betting should have more than “I guess that’s how it works” knowledge.
 
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I’ve never had much of an opinion about Ferentz, but some of his comments in that article are changing that. First he is lamenting the fact that it is only Iowa and Iowa State players being targeted. Have to love someone in a position of authority falling back on “why you picking on us” and “others are doing it too.”

And then the whole last paragraph. I’m sorry, but the whole everyone else in their world is doing it rationale just doesn’t cut it. And his “apparently” this is what these gambling apps do, just makes him look stupid or completely out of touch. Maybe if the head of a major sports program who is likely receiving ongoing training/communication on sports betting should have more than “I guess that’s how it works” knowledge.
He’s not wrong about it happening in other places too. I’ve got second hand knowledge that it’s occurring at other universities (non-B1G P5 schools) and in many sports (not just the big ones). I have no idea why Iowa and Iowa state were the first to be targeted by this but other schools better act fast to get their students on the straighten arrow and hope no one goes digging.

(Edit- to your point, Ferentz does come off as whining)
 
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He’s not wrong about it happening in other places too. I’ve got second hand knowledge that it’s occurring at other universities (non-B1G P5 schools) and in many sports (not just the big ones). I have no idea why Iowa and Iowa state were the first to be targeted by this but other schools better act fast to get their students on the straighten arrow and hope no one goes digging.

(Edit- to your point, Ferentz does come off as whining)
I have no doubt it is happening at other schools — and very likely quite a lot. Ferentz though comes off as sounding ridiculous. He actually didn’t bring up it happening at other schools around the nation, but rather in Iowa since it is the IBI doing the investigating at this time. Someone needs to tell him that others doing it too is not a defense, and “well so and so didn’t get in trouble” is an excuse a second grader would use. Then he says about the suspension that is comes off as punitive. Does he know what punitive means? Of course it is punitive. Kid broke a rule — and a pretty big one — and they are punishing him. But my favorite is when he says something like “we need to recognize the world these kids live in.” What world is that, one in which actions have no consequences? Sounds like the perfect attitude for a teacher and a molder of men.

Prevalent and accessible aren’t excuses for underage gambling and not abiding by the rules the NCAA puts in place regarding gambling. Playing collegiate sports isn’t a right, it is an honor. If one doesn’t value that honor enough and wants to place bets when the rule is very black and white, then OK. But stop with the whining when caught.
 
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But my favorite is when he says something like “we need to recognize the world these kids live in.” What world is that, one in which actions have no consequences? Sounds like the perfect attitude for a teacher and a molder of men.
Spot on! His whining is simply because there were consequences. Poor little children, or as he calls them “kids”. Kids of this age stormed beaches in WWII, fought in wars before and since, facing real consequences. Welcome to the real world.