Her hitting herself goes along with the info I was given. Good. I was hoping that was true.
Jaylon Tate's case dismissed
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Oh boy, what a mess.
The fact that she's a fellow student athlete is a huge complicating factor here.
Bruno has had that stache since back when his hair was dark. he is a real character, in a good way.
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Question, Tate was arrested, right? Why would he be arrested if the police had no physical evidence other than her statements?
Her statements plus the fact that she had clearly suffered an injury. That's the key piece here. Someone or something struck this girl in the face, the question is what and/or who.
When its domestic and one person is beat up and they point the finger at someone, that person is getting arrested. At that point, it's on you to prove you didn't do it. Messed up, I know.
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Yeah I get it, just really messed up of a person to make something up and potentially ruin someone's life that is completely innocent. Wasted amount of cash and resources for the innocent.
Well for one thing, we don't know what other facts or evidence the police may have.
But more generally, conclusive physical evidence that the incident occurred and an eyewitness who was by definition within arm's reach of the perpetrator is enough evidence to constitute probable cause to arrest someone, regardless of what it is.
If there's a TV missing from someone's house and the owner says he was in the room with you and saw you take it, you're gonna get arrested. They don't need to find you red-handed with the TV.
Correct me if I am wrong, but at that point it was two against one as her friend was with her and actually called the police.
Seems to me that the original reason of why the girls were not allowed into the apartment was probably the exact same reason that may have led them to concoct this story. Clearer heads would have prevailed. But, that is just a guess at this point.
There's plenty of middle ground here. Has it been reported yet that she was the one that called police? It could have been a friend that called on her behalf. If it was a friend that called the police, that's the right move for the friend to do in that situation, IMO. What happened after that is still anyone's guess, including how Tate's name was brought into the conversation.
Yes. He "gets it back" either way, but if he is found guilty of something that money would be applied to whatever fines or court costs or probation fees or whatever are incurred.
The only way he loses that money is if he fails to show up to court.
The defendant (or whomever posted) gets the money back after the defendent makes all the required court appearances and the case is closed, whatever the result. In practice, defendants that are found guilty usually have enough fines and fees in their punishment that any cash bond is applied to help pay those.
I hope Jaylon has strong alibi witnesses to corroborate this new version of the story.
I believe this was the best approach. However, everyone who made very provocative statements as to appropriate punishment should use this as an opportunity to rethink how they react to any type of accusations against any member of an Illinois sports team. Especially one who has been with the school 3 years with no past history of negative behavior.
icengineer
- Southern Illinois
If he was in a bar on campus on a Friday night, you'd think there would be plenty of witnesses to pick from among the bartender, waitress, patrons, etc....
sacraig
- The desert
If what the article says was true, then he likely does. It sounds like he was at his apartment the whole time with friends and teammates after she had been kicked out, then went to a bar, presumably with friends (or at least met friends there). That means he likely had witnesses with him the entire time with the possible exception of him walking to the bar, which could be easy to cover if his friends can place him at home at time X:XX and then at the bar at Y:YY.
Fixed this for you.
And please exhibit this newfound wisdom by applying this reasoning to the apparent "false accuser" here as well.
A couple of my friends mentioned that they saw him at the Red Lion after midnight.
sacraig
- The desert
It could. It could also be that her friend who called the police told them he hit her and she was either too drunk or too distraught to think to say that wasn't the case. Police could have misinterpreted a statement and then the rest of their investigation suffered from confirmation bias. It could all be a large misunderstanding. It could be malicious. It could be a whole bunch of things. I just don't think it is helpful or responsible to start throwing out wild speculation in either direction here.
dsboyce
- Golden, IL
I had posted this here before, but there was a woman here locally who falsely claimed to be assaulted at a car wash a couple months ago. Once it was learned that the report was fabricated she was arrested for "disorderly conduct for filing a false police report".
illini80
- Forgottonia
The original article from the N-G quoted her as saying Tate hit her once. That's why he was arrested.
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