Jaylon Tate's case dismissed

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JoseyWales83
Derek Piper ‏@DPiperScout 6m6 minutes ago
Jaylon Tate's attorney said they have information they will share w/ authorities that "will make this a quick & favorable decision". #Illini
 
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illini8507
JoseyWales83 said:
Derek Piper ‏@DPiperScout 6m6 minutes ago
Jaylon Tate's attorney said they have information they will share w/ authorities that "will make this a quick & favorable decision". #Illini
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God I hope so, we don't need this hanging over the program right now and dragging through the spring
 
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coltjames03
I know it happens but idk it just didn't seem to me like Tate was the type of kid who would do something like this. Regardless if it was him or not hope they find the person responsible if it wasn't him. Nobody deserves this
 
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coltjames03
Most lawyers say client is guilty but not many make the statement they have evidence to back it all up. Most just say the typical not guilty and truth come out but to say evidence to state otherwise is rare
 
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TCTORNADO
Tate's pre-trial hearing is April 20th, one day after Black's. I just hope it doesn't go that far for either.
 
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HoopsCoach
Kedric Prince
‏@KedPrince4
Breaking: Jaylon Tate's lawyer said on WDWS, he did not hit the girl. In a matter of days this will be straightened out.


This seems like a pretty confident lawyer.
 
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Second and Chalmers
TCTORNADO said:
In cases where there is domestic violence involved and an arrest is made, is there "No Drop" meaning that the prosecutor must see the case through??
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No, prosecutors have total discretion as to whether to bring or drop cases.

If Jaylon and his lawyers can produce evidence that satisfies the State's Attorney's office that this didn't happen, they'll drop the charges.
 
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Chipatsj23h
I am not going to say if he did or didnt do this because thats not fair and I dont know. What i will say is that although I dont care for Tates game, I do know he is a pretty good person. Watching him A LOT thru hs, him and nunn carried themselves well.

Him and Nunn are best friends and although Nunn is a little hot headed and can try and be tough, these two are very good young men. Tate is intelligent, well mannered and carries himself very well. If i just read a title without a name, Jaylon Tate would be at the bottom of the list of people I would suspect. He is very laid back, and doesnt seem to get too frustrated. Also just by looking at his Instagram he seems to hve a great deal of respect for women, and I just truly cant see him doing this. I hope it isnt true and I hope it comes out soon, because no innocent kid deserves to go thru that(if hes innocent).
 
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dsboyce
Well, the lawyer is either doing a great job of blowing smoke or he has one hell of an ace up his sleeve.

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AutoPoster 3000
TCTORNADO said:
Copy of NG coverage at today's arraignment.


http://www.news-gazette.com/video/2016-03-14/jaylon-tate-arraignment.html

I'm diggin Tom Bruno's stache BTW.
Quick question to all the legal experts out there. In cases where there is domestic violence involved and an arrest is made, is there "No Drop" meaning that the prosecutor must see the case through trial even if the victim wants case dropped??
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Prosecutors generally will not drop a domestic violence case merely because the victim asks them to. It is understood as a policy matter that DV victims are in a vulnerable spot and often under pressure from their abuser to make that request or to change their story. Prosecutors will try to go forward even if the victim stops cooperating or recants so long as there is still sufficient evidence to prove the abuse happened. Independent eyewitness or video recordings, for example, or even the victim's initial claims if they fit a hearsay exception (like statements made in a recorded 911 call) can be used to prove the case without the victim's testimony. But practically speaking, the vast majority of cases are resolved by plea bargains. A non-cooperative victim typically results in a more favorable plea agreement. The prosecution will reduce charges or forego jail time if the defendant will accept an order of protection and abide by conditions, such as enrolling in a DV program.

Now, I'm just talking about what happens when accusers recant or change their story. If a defendant claims to have affirmative evidence proving that they have been wrongfully accused, such as an alibi, that is a different matter. A prosecutor has an ethical duty to proceed only if he/she has a reasonable basis to believe the defendant is guilty.

The Duke case is a notorious example of rushing to judgment, but it's an even more notorious example of over-the-top prosecutorial misconduct. That district attorney knew the charges were false but lied in court and withheld exculpatory evidence on purpose. He was eventually disbarred by the state and convicted of contempt for all his malfeasance. There are not any parallels here from a legal standpoint. If Tate's accuser said he punched her, then the police had no choice but to arrest him. If his attorney has real evidence to the contrary, he will get a chance to present that.
 
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IllinoisFan733
AutoPoster 3000 said:
If Tate's accuser said he punched her, then the police had no choice but to arrest him. If his attorney has real evidence to the contrary, he will get a chance to present that.
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Let's assume that JT is proven to be innocent and did not batter this woman.

What are the consequences for the accuser if she provides a false claim against somebody instead of the actual person who battered her?

Is she trying to protect the other person by accusing Tate? Or trying to get back at him for some other reason?
 
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Dan
I reset this thread, essentially kept the latest news and removed all the initial first post reactions..imho this thread was going in so many off topic directions it was best to do it this way. On the topic of this thread at this time, here's the latest news link: news-gazette
 
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NEIlliniFan
Dan said:
... On the topic of this thread at this time, here's the latest news link: news-gazette
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I think this statement from Tate's lawyer holds true in so many of life's avenues -

' "Rumor goes worldwide before truth has a chance to put its pants on." '
 
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champaignchris
IllinoisFan733 said:
Let's assume that JT is proven to be innocent and did not batter this woman.

What are the consequences for the accuser if she provides a false claim against somebody instead of the actual person who battered her?

Is she trying to protect the other person by accusing Tate? Or trying to get back at him for some other reason?
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Conceivably, she could be charged with obstruction of justice. But she probably won't be. If things got to the point where she was giving false statements under oath, that's perjury and much more serious. We're nowhere near that point in the process and may never get there.
 
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KJKobs
http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2016-03-15/tates-attorney-emails-tell-different-story.html

URBANA — The attorney for University of Illinois basketball player Jaylon Tate said he received email from Tate’s alleged victim recanting her accusation that he struck her over the weekend.

Tom Bruno of Urbana told The News-Gazette on Tuesday that he received two emails from Hailey Pieruccini, 19, in the wake of Tate’s arrest for domestic battery. The first said Tate had not hit her and was not present when she was struck. A second email said she did it to herself.
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Epsilon
Honestly, I just hope this thread goes quiet for a while now. Until you or a loved one is falsely accused of something, it's really hard to comprehend how much damage something like this can have on your psyche, much less when it is so public, and for an offense that is against every fiber of your being. Sometimes people just get trapped in a corner and panic when they have to explain things, sometimes good people do bad things, and sometimes you are just unfortunate enough to cross paths with someone who is just plain nuts - and then no reasonable logic at all can explain how things got to where they are. I won't pretend to know the truth, or that the truth necessarily comes to light or is even believed in the pursuit of justice. I just hope that in this case that the truth does come out so that justice can prevail whatever the outcome.
 
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